Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

So they say. Which tractor do I use ? John Deere has a heated seat. Ford has a cab. Which one will break down first. Which one easiest to use. Which one has the most comfort. Your thoughts. Just for fun. Hehe.
If they all break down, I can put the thrower on the back of the MF 12 loader tractor. Hehe

Noel

Probably the one with the cab would be the winner for me. Is the jd thrower 2 stage?

I agree with Eugen, the one with the cab. Looks like the big snow is going to stay south of me. I'm in Niagara County and many times we miss the lake effect snow coming off of Lake Erie. That's fine with me. Currently only have a little on the ground with elevated temps it's melting, and it's supposed to turn to rain.

Keep the Peace
Harry

I like my Cases , but I won't do with out a cab anymore . Good thing my big Case (Frankie ) has a cab . The new one will have a heater too .

Dave

Eugen wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:09 pm Probably the one with the cab would be the winner for me. Is the jd thrower 2 stage?

No Eugen. It’s a single stage. Basically the same as a Case thrower.

Noel

I have an extra heated seat I got at Princess Auto, might stick that in the Ford with cab. This heated seat was/is for my Ford Ranger truck.

Noel

Snow is updated to 30cm to 40cm with 90 kilometre N winds.

Need to hire members to drive the machines. Let me know. Hehe.

Noel

Send some our way please!

Hehe. I would. But.

Noel

Blizzard warning now. Jumpins I’m not liking this at all.
Gusts of 110 kilometres

Noel.

Lite snow all day yesterday, got maybe 2 inches. What are the temps up there? I woke up to -15F again this morning


Gordy

Oh no! Get that chainsaw ready!


We only got a couple of inches



About 14F or -10C .. talk about confusing. I'm comfortable using lbs or kg for everything weight, and inches in construction and fabrication, but kilometres in large distances and km/h in speed; I'm obviously comfortable with litres in volume, or gallons, or quarts, but don't feel ounces in either volume or weight. then I'm comfortable with Fahrenheit in cooking, but when it comes to weather, I'm still not used to F. I mean, 14F sounds like a balmy day to me ) when in fact ice is frozen solid!!!!

Yep same confusion here. Back in the 70's President Jimmy Carter got the US started on the conversion to the metric system the rest of the world uses. Following presidents with a superiority complex decided the world should change to our system, And undid everything Pres Carter had done. So we are stuck using a mix of both.

Speaking of ice, last weekend there was a outdoor hockey tournament.The news keep talking about how they had to heat the ice, because it was too cold and brittle with the sub 0 F temps.


Gordy

So this tractor is at the back of the pile. Snow not even here yet and it’s broke. So here’s the line up. And the 446 ain’t part of it.

Noel

@Propane57 What happen Noel ? Did the spring brake or come off? That sucks.



Dave

I’m not sure Dave. Was just drive around the house to but it back in the garage. Spring was still hooked up to the lever. So the lever that the spring hooks to that stick out the front. Some how dropped and it caught in the ground and flipped its self under the tractor. But I don’t know how it would do that with the spring still hooked to it. I have not got under the tractor yet to have a look, but I’d say things are bent fairly well. Just one of those tractor that’s nuthin but trouble. I finally just got it to operate with out throwing the belt a couple weeks ago.

Noel

SOB!!! That sucks


Gordy

Gordy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:28 pm SOB!!! That sucks


Gordy

Yep. Sure does.

Noel

We are getting our first decent snow storm in a few hours. Forecast is 6-10" (15-25cm). Its been 40-50F here for weeks. I have plans to play in the snow with our 2 year old. It will be her first time playing in a decent amount of snow.

SOB !!! -26f here this morning.


Gordy

Gordy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:37 am SOB !!! -26f here this morning.


Gordy

Gordy, what are you doing at the North Pole?!

Snow has started. Right on time. Forecast said start a 11:00. And it did !

Noel

Some forecast models are saying 40cm to 60cm.


Noel

Sorry to hear about what happened to your snowcaster! Luckily you have another tractor to use when the big load of white stuff gets dumped on you!

Waiting for some snow here...

Storm mostly over. Clean up will start later today.

Noel

Some pictures of my snow, if your interested.

Noel

@Propane57 Noel , it looks so nice in your yard . I am going to request you gett my share too . Last few days here , have been to cold to snow much .

Dave

Looks nice! I want some too!

It’s a two day clean up before I’m done of every thing.
We have had in the past snow up to the bottom of the driveway lights.

Noel

well Noel, your definitely going to get some seat time.
Have fun
Tim

Some clean up pictures. No Case or John Deere was used or harmed in this selection of pictures. Hehe.
Heated seat I put in the Ford with cab worked great. Took an hour to do that.

Noel

Video of the tractor workin on Real Garden Tractors site. If your interested.

Noel

Looks like that blue tractor is doing a good job.

I got a little seat time on my blue tractor too. Had to go "up north" to check on the cabin and clean out the driveway. Haven't been there since end of November. The drive was knee deep. A little deeper by the road. The blower is 28" tall Tim

Looks like you had some high winds there too . Saw the video . The old Ford works pretty good . I have client that has one with the Johnson factory installed loader I repowered it with a Kohler 18hp Magnum HOP Twin . Whats in yours?


Dave

Looks like fun Tim. Would be nice to have a chute like that on our snowcasters.

Noel - Can you post the video?

We got 6-8" of heavy wet snow yesterday. My daughter lily rode in the cab and assisted with the Berco's electric chute controls.

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:18 pm Looks like you had some high winds there too . Saw the video . The old Ford works pretty good . I have client that has one with the Johnson factory installed loader I repowered it with a Kohler 18hp Magnum HOP Twin . Whats in yours?


Dave

It’s a LGT 165 Ford. It’s has a Kohler K341 16 hp. I’m not sure if it’s the original engine, but that’s what’s suppose to be in it when new.
How many times I thought, wouldn't it have been nice to own it when it was new. !

Noel

MattA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:36 pm Looks like fun Tim. Would be nice to have a chute like that on our snowcasters.

Noel - Can you post the video?

We got 6-8" of heavy wet snow yesterday. My daughter lily rode in the cab and assisted with the Berco's electric chute controls.

I don’t think I can. The site doesn’t host videos I don’t think. And I’m not sure how to do that. I not real computer wise. Sorry.

Noel

Propane57 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:57 pm

MattA wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:36 pm Looks like fun Tim. Would be nice to have a chute like that on our snowcasters.

Noel - Can you post the video?

We got 6-8" of heavy wet snow yesterday. My daughter lily rode in the cab and assisted with the Berco's electric chute controls.

I don’t think I can. The site doesn’t host videos I don’t think. And I’m not sure how to do that. I not real computer wise. Sorry.

Noel

I saw your video on facebook Noel, very nice!

To be fair, the sister site doesn't host videos either. The disadvantage of putting your videos in a group on facebook is that only people with Facebook accounts and part of the group can see them. This is why most people put their videos on YouTube

Maybe I'll create a little tutorial how to upload a video to YouTube and post the link here.

Propane57 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:55 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:18 pm Looks like you had some high winds there too . Saw the video . The old Ford works pretty good . I have client that has one with the Johnson factory installed loader I repowered it with a Kohler 18hp Magnum HOP Twin . Whats in yours?


Dave

It’s a LGT 165 Ford. It’s has a Kohler K341 16 hp. I’m not sure if it’s the original engine, but that’s what’s suppose to be in it when new.
How many times I thought, wouldn't it have been nice to own it when it was new. !

Noel

That is the correct engine for that tractor . It is the exact same machine as my clients . He has an old school barn and a skid steer is to tall to much out the barn but the little ford does it with ease . I made a manure bucket for him out of parts and pieces he brought me . He told me that it is greatest little tractor for those little tight areas you can't get a farm tractor . From what I have seen it looks like the Cab is a factor accessory as well .

I like the 70's iron . There was alot of great machine built back then . You can tell witch ones were the best as there still in use today.

Dave

Another storm Friday and Saturday. Same as last weekend.

Noel

Propane57 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:18 am Another storm Friday and Saturday. Same as last weekend.

Noel

@Propane57 @Eugen While Noel gets dumped on Jack is going to be here Frosting our oo . I am not sure which is worse.

Dave

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:14 pm @Propane57 @Eugen While Noel gets dumped on Jack is going to be here Frosting our oo . I am not sure which is worse.

Dave

I prefer the snow. Except I hope I'm home when it happens or it'll flatten one of my ShelterLogic tents The white one cannot handle a big load of snow.

It’s a stormin here now. Still dark out so cant see much yet, but looks like the same amount as last week. Once day light comes I’ll see better.

Noel

Still dark. But couple of pictures.

Noel

No snow here southern Ont. just bitter cold .

Dave

Looks like we might be in for quite a bit in Niagara in the next 2 days. First big storm of the year - looking forward to testing out the extra traction on the 444!

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Chad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:50 am Looks like we might be in for quite a bit in Niagara in the next 2 days. First big storm of the year - looking forward to testing out the extra traction on the 444!

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What is the extra traction set up Chad ? I missed that. Maybe.

Noel

Propane57 wrote:

Chad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:50 am Looks like we might be in for quite a bit in Niagara in the next 2 days. First big storm of the year - looking forward to testing out the extra traction on the 444!

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What is the extra traction set up Chad ? I missed that. Maybe.

Noel

lol just tire chains. Wasn't bad before on gravel, but they should give me the added traction I've been missing at times so far.

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I’m gunna try and get to the garage after dinner and give the Case 446 a kick, oops, I mean work on it a bit. Maybe.

Snowing worse now than at 6:00 am.

Noel

Chad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:42 am

Propane57 wrote:

Chad wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:50 am Looks like we might be in for quite a bit in Niagara in the next 2 days. First big storm of the year - looking forward to testing out the extra traction on the 444!

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What is the extra traction set up Chad ? I missed that. Maybe.

Noel

lol just tire chains. Wasn't bad before on gravel, but they should give me the added traction I've been missing at times so far.

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That should make quite a difference.

Noel

Any body wanna come and help. Jumpins we got a pile of it. And rain coming Monday. I’d never get it all done tomorrow.

Noel

Wish I could come!

Wow Noel, that's a mess.
So, are these back to back big snows common by you, or are you being unfairly miss treated?
Or are you just re-showing last week's pictures.

Timj wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:12 pm Or are you just re-showing last week's pictures.

That would be really funny!

But sadly I think Noel is under lots of snow!

Timj wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:12 pm Wow Noel, that's a mess.
So, are these back to back big snows common by you, or are you being unfairly miss treated?
Or are you just re-showing last week's pictures.

Thought of that Timj. But this is much worse. So I did today’s pictures. Hehe.
Your right. A big mess. And rain comin

Noel

Propane57 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:55 pm

Timj wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:12 pm Wow Noel, that's a mess.
So, are these back to back big snows common by you, or are you being unfairly miss treated?
Or are you just re-showing last week's pictures.

Thought of that Timj. But this is much worse. So I did today’s pictures. Hehe.
Your right. A big mess. And rain comin

Noel

Holy s@$% Noel I guess you don't need my snow after all . Dam if that all melts with rain you will need a boat ! Do you have pond-tunes on you house .

Dave

This is how a snow thrower works. Takes the full width with out any snow falling out the empty side. A lot of blowers can’t do that.
Holy cats it’s cold out. Heated seat is nice thou.

Noel

So my son came over this afternoon and we got everything thing cleaned up, including the deck. John Deere worked good. Had the Case 224 out. Work good, but,,,, won’t throw snow like the John Deere. If you get the caster loaded with snow it will throw much better, still not as good as the John Deere. Now, it has similar power and traction that the John Deere has. It’s got no trouble pushing into a deep hard bank over the top of the caster and moving the snow and that’s when it throws its best. Light snow, it only throws beside its self. So that brings me to think again the chute opening is to big. Will do some thinking on how to make the opening and chute smaller.

Noel

Noel, what are the specs on the John Deere?

14 hp k321, 1970 JD 140H3 770 lbs, 275 lbs thrower, hydrostatic , one range, 50 lb wheel weightS, about a 100 lbs hanging on the back, Canadian flag on the back, hydraulic thrower lift, hydraulic top chute defector, manual chute rotation, 46” mower deck. 12x12x26 gator rear tires, 16x6.5x8 front tires. I have original rears. Not sure if I got every thing Eugen, ask if you want other information. And no, it’s not for sale. Hehe

Noel

@Propane57 It's the flag on the back that makes it work better . It is Canadian snow after all .


Dave

@Propane57 In all seriousness . I think the deflector JD uses help control the snow flow into the chute instead of spraying out front and the taller narrower chute adds velocity . Some people we know have done these changes to the Case caster with great success.

Dave

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:00 pm @Propane57 In all seriousness . I think the deflector JD uses help control the snow flow into the chute instead of spraying out front and the taller narrower chute adds velocity . Some people we know have done these changes to the Case caster with great success.

Dave

Well that’s an idea with the deflector Dave. And reasonable easy to rig up some thing and try it. It would keep the paddles on the auger fuller which is what it seems to need to throw better.

Noel

Propane57 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:53 pm 14 hp k321, 1970 JD 140H3 770 lbs, 275 lbs thrower, hydrostatic , one range, 50 lb wheel weightS, about a 100 lbs hanging on the back, Canadian flag on the back, hydraulic thrower lift, hydraulic top chute defector, manual chute rotation, 46” mower deck. 12x12x26 gator rear tires, 16x6.5x8 front tires. I have original rears. Not sure if I got every thing Eugen, ask if you want other information. And no, it’s not for sale. Hehe

Noel

Thanks Noel! Was trying to understand why the JD would throw better, but I see it's a K321 just like the Case. I've seen 120 and 110 for sale around here but never a 140. Like you guys say, there must be something about the snow caster design on the JD. The front deflector doesn't seem hard to add.

Propane, how much of a gap is there between your auger and the housing? I'm guessing you have an early model and the chain adjustment is leaving a large gap which is causing the poor performance.

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Jancoe wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:37 am Propane, how much of a gap is there between your auger and the housing? I'm guessing you have an early model and the chain adjustment is leaving a large gap which is causing the poor performance.

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Just had it all apart a month or so ago, and both end adjusters are adjusted so the auger is as close as it can go. Never measured gap.

Noel