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Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:41 pm
by propane1
So my son and I went to Ontario to pick up a loader. Kwik-Way loader model number 45-08211. It was on a Wheel horse 520H. We plan to put it on our Case 446, but will see. I’m sure we will find a tractor to mount it on. Hehe.
We have a lot of learning to do. Any way, very quick trip, went to Ottawa from PEI on Friday, picked up the loader, had a great visit with the owner and his wife, then to the motel. Up Saturday morning and came back home. Left Friday morning at 4:00am and back at 6:00pm Saturday.
Noel
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:43 pm
by propane1
Few more pictures.
Noel
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:06 pm
by Spike188
@propane1 Was the flow control valve and added bonus?
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:27 pm
by JSinMO
That looks like a great winter project Noel! I’m looking forward to following along with it!
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:00 pm
by propane1
Spike188 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:06 pm
@propane1 Was the flow control valve and added bonus?
Came with the deal. It’s mounted on that red pump Spike. He had that set up on the loader after he told the original black pump off. I kind of thought if looked familiar. He told why he had it on there. But of course I can’t remember now. But I think it was for so the lift and dump work work at the same speed if both used at the same time. I’m not sure on that.
Noel
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:22 pm
by Spike188
The Flow Control spec's for Case GT's was 8 GMP. After market units are typically 5 or 10 and 15 GMP. 10 and 15 GMP flow controls would only use the lower end of the adjustable range. A 15 GMP valve would start retarding speed at just over 50% of the lever sweep. The last 50% of sweep would be a rapid reduction of speed where the first 50% of sweep would not change speed. A 10 GMP unit would have approximately 20% of the lever sweep with no noticeable speed change. A 5 GMP control would theoretically reduce top end speed by 60% at valve totally open.
I have a 10 GMP flow control to add to a 448 used for tilling.
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:15 am
by DavidBarkey
Thats awesome Noel . A few points from someone who has put a loader on a 400 series tractor . You do not need to go to the extreams that I did on Frankie because it can lift twice what that can in weight . BUT you will need to make sure that the front tires are a minimum 4 ply and together can carry the weight of the pay load (up to 400 lbs ) plus half the weight of the tractor (400 lbs ) Plus the weight of the loader assembly (guess is about another 400lbs ) . Now a counter balance weight behind the rear wheels will transfer some of that weight to the rear wheels and off the fronts reducing that number . Front wheel bearing will need to be upgraded if you have not already done so . I recommend upgrading steering linkage to Hiem end rod ends and make sure your steering gears are in good shape to deal with the addtional load . Make sure your sub frame attaches to the rear axle as well as the frame in the middle and the front .
It take a little extra time to do these things but you will have a great little loader afterwards .
Have fun .
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:43 am
by propane1
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:15 am
Thats awesome Noel . A few points from someone who has put a loader on a 400 series tractor . You do not need to go to the extreams that I did on Frankie because it can lift twice what that can in weight . BUT you will need to make sure that the front tires are a minimum 4 ply and together can carry the weight of the pay load (up to 400 lbs ) plus half the weight of the tractor (400 lbs ) Plus the weight of the loader assembly (guess is about another 400lbs ) . Now a counter balance weight behind the rear wheels will transfer some of that weight to the rear wheels and off the fronts reducing that number . Front wheel bearing will need to be upgraded if you have not already done so . I recommend upgrading steering linkage to Hiem end rod ends and make sure your steering gears are in good shape to deal with the addtional load . Make sure your sub frame attaches to the rear axle as well as the frame in the middle and the front .
It take a little extra time to do these things but you will have a great little loader afterwards .
Have fun .
Thanks Dave.
Noel
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:47 pm
by propane1
So we mocked up the loader today and we have it sort of figured out where it’s going. Lots to do. Every time you change a setting it changes something else.
Any way. Forward we go.
Noel
Re: Picked up the Kwik-Way loader.
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:20 pm
by DavidBarkey
It was nice of Case to provide mounting tabs on the rear axle for the subframe .
