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I was thinking diesel fuel too. Maybe a mix of diesel fuel and light oil ?


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Eugen wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:32 pm
Propane57 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:20 pm You’ll have to try that trick I mentioned a while ago, when it won’t start.
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If you mean starter fluid, I tried, and it runs for a bit, then stops. Tried it many times, no go. Until I pushed air into the gas tank to make some gas come out the hose that goes into the carb (just disconnected it for the procedure), it would not keep on running.

Is there another trick? :geek:

There is another trick. It is called replace your fuel line with SAE R30, check the tank for debris, remove the 90 on the tank and pull the screen if it has one and check for the white sealant tape plugging the hole, and lastly, the finger over the end of the straw that keeps the fuel at the carb and not let it run back to the tank is the needle and seat. Apply this trick to all mowers.

And, you cannot see bad fuel line. So, do not say that unless you want my hand to reach through the screen and smack you.

There is a sealant made for gasoline fittings in a jar with a brush. No Teflon tape is used for best results.
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Re: Back to the 444 that wouldn't start

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Propane57 wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 11:57 am I was thinking diesel fuel too. Maybe a mix of diesel fuel and light oil ?


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Here's a couple of pictures someone posted on the Massey Harris group on facebook. He put 2 gallons of diesel and ran the tractor for 2 minutes.


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Is that crazy or what?! :O
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@Eugen @Propane57 Not surprising what diesel fuel can do . I use it as a penetrating fluid and in my parts washer for that reason .
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When I rebuilt my Tea20 Ferguson tractor engine, I bought diesel fuel, put it in a tub and used that to clean the parts. Worked great.

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Amazing how dirty that was and how fast it cleaned up. What do you do with the dirty diesel afterwards?
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MattA wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:36 pm Amazing how dirty that was and how fast it cleaned up. What do you do with the dirty diesel afterwards?
My guess is as good as yours. Maybe continue to wash some parts with it until it's too dirty, and then do what you normally do with dirty oil or fuel? :geek:
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I let it soak into next years wood pile.


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Propane57 wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:17 pm I let it soak into next years wood pile.


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Steady near 14 volts with the new regulator, as it should be. Amps draw looks more sane now too. :drink:


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