California ban on gas lawn mowers etc.

[Eugen]

Could it be true?



https://10outstanding.com/california-ba ... 8gYRyKlpi0

[thebuildist]

Nothing is too outrageous to come from Californication.

[DavidBarkey]

I understand and respect the need to reduce emissions . BUT , are all the power plants zero emissions ? What about the factories producing all the metals needed to support the electrical grid needed to go all electric?? What about all the batteries . What about all the various types of plastics required to insulate the electrical components ?? The problem is about greed verses the single minded tards. Most vehicles on the road build after 2015 in top running order produce lower emissions out the tail pipe than what goes in the breather . More focus need to be placed on efficiency , cats,and getting rid of ethanol in the fuel . Ethanol actually increases emissions by decreasing efficiency. It take way more ethanol to produce the same amount of power as does gasoline , And the amount of fuel it takes to produce ethanol starting at the field and then to distillation is greater than the amount of ethanol produced .
That is my rant for the day .

Dave

[thebuildist]

The ethanol mandate is the perfect illustration of the progressives/leftie's motto: "My purpose in life is making myself feel superior by finding or inventing a problem and doing SOMETHING about it. It doesn't matter if the problem is real or imaginary. It doesn't matter if my solution actually helps or actually makes matters worse. What matters is my feeling that I CARE more than others, so I feel SUPERIOR to them."

The ethanol mandate was enacted to address a pretend problem ("Global Warming") and while it did nothing to alleviate our sense that the planet is warming, it has empirically increased carbon emissions (which doesn't actually matter) and led to observable environmental damage (which very much does matter).

But the market has been distorted for such a long time now by this scheme of governmental reward and punishment that a great many people have been forced to plan occupations and financial futures around it. So even though it was a terrible idea that was poorly executed, if it were removed now it would lead to a great deal of pain and suffering for those people.

A classic progressive mess. Hurt people when you implement a new policy, hurt people the whole time the policy is in effect, and hurt people if the policy is ever reversed. And feel genuine pride in your "accomplishment", because "at least you cared enough to try."

[Harry]

I'm all for cleaner air and everyone doing their part for to reduce global warming. Global is the keyword here everyone and as long as other countries around the World don't follow suit, we all my as well just pee into the wind!

Keep the Peace
Harry

[MattA]

I'd rather see more fuel injected tractor/zero turn engines offered than a complete ban of small engines. They are supposed to start easier and consume 25% less fuel. I assume the emissions are better too.

[Eugen]

Look at @DavidBarkey he's looking at putting a catalytic converter on his tractor. I'd like that too.

[DavidBarkey]

You will all notice that it is not called Global warming anymore . Climate Change is real. The world is warming and this is causing the climate due to various factors like a major shift in the jet stream . Most people don't understand how a couple of degrees change in ocean temps can have an effect . Well it does . Floods, droughts, blizzards , extreme heat , ect. aren't just heard of more because its sells ratings ,it's happening more often . Where we are it use to classed zone 4b for agg. now we are 5b . We are benefiting from , where others are suffering . As some places warm up others cool off as a result . That is why it is now called Climate Change but is due to Global Warming . Ethanol was put in fuel to shut up the wagon hoppers and to give the farmers who are subsidized by both governments to have something to do with excess corn that they are paying for . At some point in the future we need to get completely away from fossil fuels but we first must have viable replacements in place and proven. This takes time and willingness of people to change . We still have people that use horse and cartage yet the 4 stroke engine has been prominent for 100 years now . The problem is we don't have a 100 more years to make the switch . Most of the world pollution is not coming from North America or Europe (we don't make jack shit here anymore) but we all are buying all the goods made from the countries that are making most of the pollution. Put in place restrictions that limit goods coming in from abroad that do not meet emission standards ( alot of these factories are owned by or supported by western Corporations ) . Force mandatory 100 % warranties on tech and other high demand products . Outlaw designed obsolescence most new fridges don't last but couple of years yet there are 1970s fridges still running and have non stop since made . Why do we have so much garbage , because we have been brainwashed by corporations we have to have everything now ! Well to have it all now it has to be cheap and it will be cheap or financed for the rest of your life. The rich don't want you to buy quality they want you to keep buying there cheaply build designed to fail crap over and over .

Dave

[Gordy]

Dave,

Our tractors are a good example of built to last, with some maintenance My working stand up freezer has a manufacture date of 1968 on the back of it. At an auction a few years ago there was a chest freezer, plugged in and running, the name was International Harvester IH, the manufacture date was 1948 Now these are not as power efficient as the new stuff but are still running. And you can add insulation to make them better. A Youtuber did a test with a Kilo-Watt meter on an old frig, before and after adding 1" of foil faced foam,and cut the power consumption by almost 1/2. Because the frig was in the kitchen he later covered the foam with white hardboard panels and trim to make it look decent.

Cars on the other hand. Many of us are old enough to remember $100 beaters with 100,000 miles on them and were considered junkyard ready. Now 250k to 300K is not uncommon.


Gordy

[Eugen]

It's definitely a sensitive topic and opinions can be divided.

Now, designed obsolescence is a real thing. Businesses are in the main business of making a profit. Most of them at least. There are sometimes guys like Elon Musk who's got other goals too, besides making money. But the guys is an exception, not the rule. He's crazy smart, crazy ambitious too.

When it comes to cars, there have always been some that last long, and may that were crap on wheels. On the whole, I have to admit that my impression is cars got more reliable. Look at Kia and Hyundai, which years ago had terrible engines. Much better now. The development that I most don't like about new cars is how complicated and compact they are made, in the engine area. At the same time, customers do want more fuel economy, more features, so there we go. I had an old BMW X5 once, it was terrible to work on. At some point I had to change some xfer case oil, and it required a very short metric 16 tubular key . Just an example of how it clearly wasn't made with user maintenance in mind. My Honda Ridgeline truck on the other hand, has all bolts needing the most common 3/8 ratched drive to undo, and very easily accessible. I like that!