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PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:35 pm
by puttputt
I picked up an early Case 220 a few years ago and am finally getting around to seeing what all is ailing it. I'm trying to install a fan blade but cannot get the bolt that screws through the pto to bulge at all. Before I mess around any further, I wanted to ask if by chance it could be left hand thread. I assume not likely but thought I'd check. Of course trying to stop the engine from turning when trying to loosen the bolt is a trick in itself!
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:52 pm
by Eugen
Please have a look at this manual, page 5, paragraph 3
https://manuals.ccigt.com/ServiceManual ... 20copy.pdf
Sorry for the short reply, I had a longer answer but one of the kids woke up crying and I had to write something quickly. Indeed, that bolt can be hard to take out, especially if it was probably torqued at more than 45 ft lb by an overzealous previous owner; see if you can persuade it with a little lubricant, and perhaps some light impact driver action.
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:26 am
by DavidBarkey
Yes it is a left hand thread . At this point you may have tightened it more trying to get it off . In this case an impact gun is your friend . But make sure you have it going in the correct dirrection to loosen a left hand thread . Follow the manual Eugen posted . If you need parts/ shims,spring washers or bearings . We have Case venders on our sight that can help you out .
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:45 am
by puttputt
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:26 am
Yes it is a left hand thread . At this point you may have tightened it more trying to get it off . In this case an impact gun is your friend . But make sure you have it going in the correct dirrection to loosen a left hand thread . Follow the manual Eugen posted . If you need parts/ shims,spring washers or bearings . We have Case venders on our sight that can help you out .
Looking at the link to the manual (thank you for the link), on page 9 it says "remove right hand thread bolt". Could that be a misprint or maybe different years were different? I did try an impact on it a bit in the left hand thread direction to no avail but I didn't try very hard until I could determine thread direction. But going in right hand thread direction I couldn't budge it even with a breaker bar.
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:42 am
by Eugen
Can you try and identify which type of clutch you have? According to page 3 of that manual:
the right hand on page 9 has to have the snap ring which you should be able to see, if it's that style
If you don't have the snap ring there it must be left hand, give it some left hand impact love!

Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:17 pm
by puttputt
Thanks for the info. I have to wait until the weekend again as the tractor is at my shop out at the cabin. But from what I can remember, I don't believe there is a snap ring. So if not, I shall give it some left hand love.
Thanks again.
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:50 pm
by DavidBarkey
I have to check the adjustment on the 222 tomorrow. I was sure it has a clip and it was left hand thread . I will report back on it tomorrow . Of the 5 clutches I have worked on I have never seen a right hand thread . Now I am woundering . Hopefully one of the guyes with a lot more experiance can chime in and set us straight .
In the front of the manual it says all are left hand but the loader and then says the early is right hand

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Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:56 pm
by Eugen
Dave, it seems to me that only the loader (6xx) and the clutch that uses that old type of snap ring are right handed. That's how the manual reads for me.

Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:50 pm
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:56 pm
Dave, it seems to me that only the loader (6xx) and the clutch that uses that old type of snap ring are right handed. That's how the manual reads for me.
I read it the same way but just had the 222 apart and it is left hand thread and is early style based on there description with a clip . I have an easy clutch with right hand thread stud . I am really confused now . Hope that one of our dealers can chime in and shed some light on this .
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:20 pm
by puttputt
I was out at the cabin this weekend so got back to the tractor. Got the bolt out. It was indeed left hand thread. A little bit of impact persuasion and out it came. I kind of buggered the head though from my previous attempt!
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:54 pm
by Eugen
puttputt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:20 pm
I was out at the cabin this weekend so got back to the tractor. Got the bolt out. It was indeed left hand thread. A little bit of impact persuasion and out it came. I kind of buggered the head though from my previous attempt!
Glad to hear it got sorted out! If your bolt ends up not usable and I find one in my junk pile I'll send it to you.

Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:08 pm
by puttputt
That would be great. It's pretty rounded off so can't use a torque wrench on it at all.
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:45 am
by Harry
That happened to me years ago. I ended up taking a head from another bolt and welding it unto the left handed thread one. It worked fine and didn't break off when torqued. Just a suggestion, if your in a pinch.
Keep the Peace
Harry
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:52 am
by DavidBarkey
In a pinch like Harry said if you don't have a welder carefully file down new flat down to the next size socket even a metric size as along as you can get a good fit while waiting for a replacement bolt .
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:07 am
by puttputt
Yes I do have a welder. I thought about welding on a new bolt head. I will give that a go if need be.
Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:04 pm
by puttputt
Played around with the 220 again this weekend. I had ordered a new ignition switch, solenoid and points and condenser. The parts arrived during the week. Got the points installed, figured out the wiring and installed the switch and solenoid. Cleaned the carb and filled the hydraulic system and engine oil. This thing has been sitting, not run, for about 6 years in my shed and at least a few years before I bought it. Filled the float bowl, sprayed some carb cleaner in the throat of the carb and it started up with little effort. Seems to run quite decent and both high/low range work well and the hydraulic lift works. So better than I expected!

Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:19 pm
by Timj

that's awesome after sitting that long.

if you haven't already done so, now would be a good time to dump the oil in the rear end too.

Re: PTO on Case 220
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:32 pm
by puttputt
Yes, I will do that. I was basically just wanting to see if the tractor even functioned at this point to which I was pleasantly surprised.