Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

Case 444 $250 These Case postings are not mine!

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/grd/d/ne ... 77919.html
Keep the Peace
Harry

Is that a flow control valve on the side of the tower?

Looks like a hydraulic cylinder below the exhaust pipe.

Noel

Best I can figure out . It is a 1969 444 PK . And that is the side mounted lift cylinder and the lift control arm we are seeing . Can anyone confirm or deny that?

Dave

Is that a JI Case shovel?

When I go to the C/L site and click on the pic it enlarges it. It does look like a cylinder and lift lever on the right side, which David has noted. I only know what I know, and I've never seen one on the right side before. Have other members seen a lift cylinder on the right side before?

It appears that the same person is posting the 444 and the two 222's. Probably the right person could offer a package deal and acquire all three. I'm not that person for obvious reasons!

Keep the Peace
Harry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAMt6TbVICs
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAMt6TbVICs/url]
He claims it is a 1969 444 PK and on the right side there is the lever and lift cylinder .
<img src="http://domania.us/gts-today/tractor/69- ... ator-a.jpg" alt="Photo of Two Case 444 Garden Tractors"/> Here is another example I found .
I still learning the Case blood lines , but it looks to me like Case took the 195 chassis , changed the hood and added the hydraulic lift and called them Performance Kings PK . I read somewhere that the Elephant Ear rear fenders were only on the 69 - 70 year PK tractors. I have never seen any ,but if this is correct . They must be rare . Maybe one of the long time Colt Case Ingersoll gurus could shine some light on this .


Dave

When you zoom into the CL picture, the lever goes into the tower. Just looks like a flow control valve in the small picture above. A factory flow control valve is probably worth the listing price.

This is what the flow control valves look like:
https://www.google.com/search?q=case+ga ... 60&bih=612

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:52 am Best I can figure out . It is a 1969 444 PK . And that is the side mounted lift cylinder and the lift control arm we are seeing . Can anyone confirm or deny that?

Dave

This is a 1970 444, one year after the PK models. And yes that is a hydraulic lift control that you see.

micase wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:31 am

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:52 am Best I can figure out . It is a 1969 444 PK . And that is the side mounted lift cylinder and the lift control arm we are seeing . Can anyone confirm or deny that?

Dave

This is a 1970 444, one year after the PK models. And yes that is a hydraulic lift control that you see.

How do you tell the difference ?

Dave

There are several differences in a 1969 PK and a 1970 model. This one, only having one photo, I see that the seat hinges match those that were used starting in 1970.

micase wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:03 pm There are several differences in a 1969 PK and a 1970 model. This one, only having one photo, I see that the seat hinges match those that were used starting in 1970.

Thanks , always learning .

Dave

micase wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:03 pm There are several differences in a 1969 PK and a 1970 model. This one, only having one photo, I see that the seat hinges match those that were used starting in 1970.

Me too, always learning about these GT's.

Keep the Peace
Harry

micase wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:31 am

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:52 am Best I can figure out . It is a 1969 444 PK . And that is the side mounted lift cylinder and the lift control arm we are seeing . Can anyone confirm or deny that?

Dave

This is a 1970 444, one year after the PK models. And yes that is a hydraulic lift control that you see.

Correct, only the '69 models are PK tractors, although the 1970 models look very similar.

Bob

I read somewhere that the Performance King models had a different Case decal on the hood, like the one in the pic that Dave posted. The Case decal on the pic I posted is different.
I was watching you tube video's this morning on Case GT's and seen a 195 with elephant ear fenders.

Keep the Peace
Harry

Harry wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:32 am I read somewhere that the Performance King models had a different Case decal on the hood, like the one in the pic that Dave posted. The Case decal on the pic I posted is different.
I was watching you tube video's this morning on Case GT's and seen a 195 with elephant ear fenders.

Keep the Peace
Harry

Look at seat hinges how large they are. This is one of the ways to determine a PK (1969) from 1970. It is not always correct but large barn style hinges are (one) good indicator of 1970 model. Serial Number is still the best way to tell.

Terry

Seller txt me today saying he has sold the 444. I didn't really want it any way, that's why I hesitated.

Keep the Peace
Harry