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222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:39 am
by vicv07
Good morning. I've been looking for a parts machine for my 444. Someone contacted me and has a 222 with no engine or control valve. But they do have a snow blade, snow blower, and 2x 44" decks. Will all these attachments fit right over to mine?
Thanks

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:13 am
by Spike188
The "What fits" breakdown list these specs.


The 2XX series were standard with H50 blades and J38 deck but could be purchased with 44" or larger decks and blades. The answer is for a proper 4XX fit you will want a J44 or J48 deck. The H50 blade is 44" and the H54 is54". Check out the deck and blade model numbers. They will all mount but width is what you are looking for.


Spike

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:20 am
by Timj
These attachments should fit, most attachments with the snap fast system are interchangeable, the model numbers would help confirm it.

A thought on the snow caster is if it is a 38", it would be narrower than the 444. Wings could be added to cover a wider path.

The decks would need the longer lift links to compensate for the taller tractor.

See if you can get model numbers,
:geek: Tim

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:33 am
by vicv07
Thank you for the help. I'll go check it out. He's asking for $400 for all of that. If the pieces are in good shape I'd say that's a fair price. The snow blower I would sell I have no interest in that. But definitely would have interest in the blade

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:50 am
by Timj
If they're in good condition and not needing a ton of work the price is good and you can probably recoup a good part of the price selling the blower. :letmesee:
:geek: Tim

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:02 am
by vicv07
:107: I know my deck doesn't have any identifying information on it. How to tell the model number of the attachments?

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:15 am
by Timj
Then it's a guess based on width and other minor clues

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:38 am
by Eugen
Like the other guys said, the issue is the width of the attachments. I jumped on a blade because of the low price and great shape, but didn't pay attention to the size. It was really meant for the 2xx series, it's 48" wide. So if it's straight (perpendicular to the lenght of the tractor) then it's fine on the 4xx, but if it's angled, it no longer is as wide as the tractor. :/

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 8:14 am
by vicv07
Thanks. Will check it out today. Wish it was a 444 so I could salvage some parts but maybe I'll part it out

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:59 am
by Eugen
vicv07 wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 8:14 am Thanks. Will check it out today. Wish it was a 444 so I could salvage some parts but maybe I'll part it out
Probably the only part that's not interchangeable if the 222 is roughly of same vintage as your 444 is the rear axle assembly. Hydraulic pump too, as they did come in different size shafts.

But,as you get more attachments for the 444 all of a sudden you might get the feeling of having the 222 for some of the attachments and the 444 for others. It happened to me! :D

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 10:46 am
by vicv07
For sure. But the 222 has no engine or travel control valve

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 11:10 am
by Eugen
If it's missing the hydraulic pipes and who knows what other small parts, they're harder and really expensive to source individually. I got two 4xx parts tractors which are incomplete in various ways, and a 244 that's complete, and rebuilding the engine for it now. Had big dreams about either making a good 4xx out of the two, or building an articulated machine out of the two, but that doesn't seem doable for some time. Getting the 244 in shape seems more doable.

Check the size of your snow caster. The last 444 I got for parts came with a snow caster and deck, both in terrible shape though. I already have a good caster for my 446.

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:31 am
by vicv07
So I checked out what he had today and most of the stuff was in pretty rough shape. And I really didn't feel I needed any of the parts off of the rusty stripped 222. I did purchase the dozer blade. It's 44 in across so it is the smaller model. But for pushing dirt around and such we'll see how well it works. I only paid $75 for it. It's rusty and could use a sandblast and repaint. And someone lost the bar on it and replaced it with a piece of chain. But the cutting edges in good shape and everything moves the way it should so I don't feel like I did too badly

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 12:11 pm
by Timj
For bulldozing dirt around I think you'll like the 44 better. Won't push as hard as the 54.

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:03 pm
by vicv07
:violin: it works pretty well. I put a couple concrete blocks on top of the plate behind the blade and it held down decently as well. Last year I dug up my well lines to replace them and I never got a chance to back fill it in before the end of the year but then the ground froze. Now I just pushed back all of the dirt into the trench. What would have taken me 4 hours with a shovel in the sun I got done in 10 minutes

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:05 pm
by vicv07
I did not mean to put that guy playing a violin in.

Hopefully I can plow snow with it this year as well. I don't have any tire change but my tires are filled with 10 gallons each. So hopefully that's enough.
If it doesn't cover the whole wheel width, I will figure something out. I have a rather short and wide driveway anyway and walk behind snowblower works very well

Re: 222 attachments for a 444

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 3:08 pm
by vicv07
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Installing that may have been one of the most frustrating experiences of my life though. Those inner pins did not want to go in all the way. I basically had to put the blade up against and not moving object in drive the tractor into it. Spent my tie rod a bit but I got it in. I had wire wheeled and greased everything. Hopefully next time will be easier