Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

Look what followed me home... or is it time for an intervention now ?
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Many thanks to @Eugen for patiently holding on to this tractor for me, I almost bought it a year ago, but changed my mind at the last minute... I didn't wait when I was given a 2nd chance... It will spend a week or two in "Gerry's Big Sky Garage" for some tweaks, and do a little bit of work in the backyard before it goes up north to do "real" work.
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We had some nice weather for travelling today, it was a pleasant change from the dreary rain yesterday...
and also - yesterday was Kelly's birthday , delaying the pick up date meant I didn't give myself a tractor for "Her" Birthday Present ...
Happy Wife... Happy Life...

Looks familiar... glad it went to a good home

@RoamingGnomeI suspect that the 644 will become a third arm for you. When it comes to lifting and pushing items into the pickup or onto your trailer it will become the go to tool. My 646 has a carburetor issue making it almost useless. It will get priority treatment before any other projects are started.

@Eugen will be happy that it has stayed in the fold.

Nice buy Gerry. Will be very handy.

Noel

Congratulations to you both . That will help you both out . Some things are meant to be .

Gerry I’m sure you’ll find this machine to be indispensable for your many projects up North. I used mine to remove the green case from the guys pickup. Sorry no pics hard to take them while operating the machine. Harry

Congratulations Gerry! You’re building quite a fleet! I think you will be very happy with the loader.

A few years ago after breaking my back with a wheelbarrow and 10 tonnes of soil I got the green light from my wife to get a small loader and so my hunt for a 600 series began. But only after having it I realized how versatile and useful a small loader is. I think you will have a similar experience Gerry. It was a pleasure to see you and your wife yesterday. Hope you get lots of use from this tractor!

Congrats!!!! Looks like a good one, the loaders can not be replaced once you have them.

I've been getting a little seat time with the yellow 644 in the last few days - as many of you mentioned it's quite handy for moving stuff around the yard. First modification was a pair of D rings on the upper bucket webbing, Really handy having a dedicated anchor point for chains and shackles... I've finished the teardown of one of my old, rusty Sidekicks all that was left was the drivetrain - so much of the frame and body had disintegrated - final cleanup was shovelling rust flakes and chunks off the lawn afterwards I was happy that the 644 could actually lift the engine/transmission/transfer case up and out of what was left of the frame. Unfortunately the ass end was a little light and traction was non-existent - doing a 1 wheel burn out and leaving a shiny brown skid mark in the yard. After the powertrain was out I was able to pick up and move the remainders of the frame and continue removing front axle parts Back for a 2nd try at the powertrain, with the same results, even after filling the weight box with more concrete pavers
- I probably could have moved if I had a set of chains on the tires (maybe) ...and there it sits - plan "B" is to split engine/trans and move the parts separately, I just didn't want to be kneeling down on the ground fighting with the bolts...
BTW, engine + transmission + transfer case probably weighs around 375 llbs

Congrats, Gerry! You may need an intervention some day, but surely not yet. You're just getting started!!

Bob

RoamingGnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:06 pm I've been getting a little seat time with the yellow 644 in the last few days - as many of you mentioned it's quite handy for moving stuff around the yard.
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First modification was a pair of D rings on the upper bucket webbing,
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Really handy having a dedicated anchor point for chains and shackles...
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I've finished the teardown of one of my old, rusty Sidekicks all that was left was the drivetrain - so much of the frame and body had disintegrated - final cleanup was shovelling rust flakes and chunks off the lawn afterwards
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I was happy that the 644 could actually lift the engine/transmission/transfer case up and out of what was left of the frame.PXL_20240611_195204048.jpg
Unfortunately the ass end was a little light and traction was non-existent - doing a 1 wheel burn out and leaving a shiny brown skid mark in the yard.
PXL_20240611_190706747.jpg
After the powertrain was out I was able to pick up and move the remainders of the frame and continue removing front axle parts
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Back for a 2nd try at the powertrain, with the same results, even after filling the weight box with more concrete pavers
- I probably could have moved if I had a set of chains on the tires (maybe)
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...and there it sits - plan "B" is to split engine/trans and move the parts separately, I just didn't want to be kneeling down on the ground fighting with the bolts...
BTW, engine + transmission + transfer case probably weighs around 375 llbs

I think this is one of those situations where you find plenty for the loader to do once you have one!

The chains I put on the 446 absolutely helped, but it still spins and with chains it can leave quite a mark in the grass!

There’s just no substitute for counter weight. Maybe you could find a way to hang some weight of the back of the weight box.

@RoamingGnome Gerry , try running the chains off the back of the bucket so to put the centre of weight closer to the tractor just make sure you have it secured to the front of the bucket so it can't swing back into the grill . Moving it back even a foot will change the weight distribution a lot . Someone smarter than me can do the math on that .

Gerry, I like the D-ring idea, better than a welded hook on the bucket. When lifting high enough to get what ever you’re lifting off the ground, I’ve found the pick wants to swing and hit the grill. I’ve always thought a grill guard would be a good idea. I haven’t got around to building one or two. Harry

Harry wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:26 am Gerry, I like the D-ring idea, better than a welded hook on the bucket. When lifting high enough to get what ever you’re lifting off the ground, I’ve found the pick wants to swing and hit the grill. I’ve always thought a grill guard would be a good idea. I haven’t got around to building one or two. Harry

Good point Harry .Do the 600 series have the same snap fast on the front as the 400 series for mounting one ?

No snap fast on the 600’s David. There are a couple of mounting holes in the frame though. Harry

...and the saga of the Case contagion continues

When @Eugen decided to sell his 2nd 644 Loader I convinced Kelly that it would be better suited for work up at the property because it has a 3 point hitch and hyd PTO on the back... It took a little time but with a bit of convincing approval was given, the deal was done and we were making the treck to Port McNicoll with a U-Haul trailer in tow... (my trailer is only 8' and the loader needs just a bit more room than that...)
The round trip is a long drive, we picked up the trailer from U-Haul at 7:00 am, were at Eugen's around 11:00 am, loaded up and finally arrived at the property by suppertime... I didn't have the energy to unload that night The next morning I took the trailer with the loader up the hill to the clearing and unloaded it...
Brake parts for the red one are MIA (actually they're on the yellow loader) but both loaders need brakes, and the one I'm keeping needs some serious upgrades because of the steep hills on the property. It is probably going to end up with disc brakes on the rear axle like @DavidBarkey made for Frankie. I took my 195 down the hill last fall to park it in the shipping container for the winter - I appreciated the fact that while it didn't have a holding valve, it did have old school disc brakes on the rear axle and they worked pretty good when the I didn't have the travel lever perfectly in the retarder setting... So now I'm the proud owner of 5 little Case tractors + 1 big Case backhoe...
Both the 644 loaders have little things that need fixing and having the yellow 644 at home in the city will give me the chance to prototype and test fit any parts before I take them up north and install them on the red loader...

once all the little things have been tweaked I'll be selling the yellow 644...

...that was the deal

RoamingGnome wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:22 am once all the little things have been tweaked I'll be selling the yellow 644...

...that was the deal

Otherwise known as you'll have it forever since the fixing never quite ends...

Toolslinger wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:11 am
Otherwise known as you'll have it forever since the fixing never quite ends...

What is Kelly's favourite colour ??

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:08 pm What is Kelly's favourite colour ??

She doesn't know that is an option, but if it was ~ it would be the colour of a 3 point hitch, Hyd PTO and straighter tin work and bucket -

RoamingGnome wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:47 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:08 pm What is Kelly's favourite colour ??

She doesn't know that is an option, but if it was ~ it would be the colour of a 3 point hitch, Hyd PTO and straighter tin work and bucket -

Paint the second her colour , than you can keep both . His and Hers loaders . It would be unfair of you not to let her help with her own machine .

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:40 am

RoamingGnome wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:47 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:08 pm What is Kelly's favourite colour ??

She doesn't know that is an option, but if it was ~ it would be the colour of a 3 point hitch, Hyd PTO and straighter tin work and bucket -

Pain the second her colour , than you can keep both . His and Hers loaders . It would be unfair of you not to let her help with her own machine .

That’s a fantastic idea! Once she used it for a bit she won’t want you to get rid of it! Or convince her that redundancy in the system is a good thing. 2 loader are definitely better that just one!

Toolslinger wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:11 am

RoamingGnome wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:22 am once all the little things have been tweaked I'll be selling the yellow 644...

...that was the deal

Otherwise known as you'll have it forever since the fixing never quite ends...

Or paint blue, and say you sold yellow one as promised.

While I appreciate your suggestions...
You guys really aren't helping...

From my own experience since I own two 600 series GT’s. When one was deadlined because of a broken hydraulic hose, the other was handy to have to finish the project. Another time the 644 lbh was stuck in the mud the 646 pulled it out. Recently using the 644 lbh to dig a trench the 646 to move the move dirt away. That’s just a few reasons I’ve found two are better than one. Harry

I never entertained keeping two loaders, because of the cost. I'd say make the red one all good and sell the yellow one.

This was posted before. I liked it so much I saved it. Harry

Good one @Harry ~ My words (or the meme I shared...) Come back to haunt me....

The honest truth as @Eugen mentioned is that the budget for 2 644's just isn't there.
That being said, Kelly has been a good sport about it and there hasn't been any or yet.

I mentioned to her having a 2nd loader at the property could be a temporary option for the rest of the season. Just to work around the iffy brakes and the steep hills... We have piles of pit run gravel at the bottom of the hill ~ last week neighbour Glen was nice and used his full size farm tractor to put some gravel into my utility trailer... After he went out for dinner I tried to do one last load ~ shovelling gravel the old fashioned way that wasn't fun at all...

RoamingGnome wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:45 pm
We have piles of pit run gravel at the bottom of the hill ~ last week neighbour Glen was nice and used his full size farm tractor to put some gravel into my utility trailer... After he went out for dinner I tried to do one last load ~ shovelling gravel the old fashioned way that wasn't fun at all...

Loading gravel the old fashioned way…. No Thanks! Having a loader tractor is the only way to go. Made me think maybe a project to set up a dump trailer maybe in the future!