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Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:52 pm
by Eugen
Good progress! Sandblasting, priming and painting is something I'm not set up for, but would like to. I've see a painting tent at Lee valley, as I don't have a proper shop.

Where do you get the paint from?

Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:11 pm
by mac102004
The power red is right from Case I just happen to have a quarts and aerosols around. The wheels I’ll just paint with a couple duplicolour rattle cans from Canadian tire, gloss white. I’m all out of power white paint. Same with the engine just a low gloss black engine paint from Canadian tire.

This is not a full resto by any means just a tidy up and respray so it’s presentable. I’m trying to hold myself back a little I tend to get out of control on restorations, as can be seen with my 1394 project lol. Image


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Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:46 pm
by mac102004
back on the 444 today, things feeling like they are going in the wrong direction but oh well. I have the hood and fenders in primer, sprayed bedliner on the inside of the fenders, I may do a little more body work on the hood yet I'm not sure I'm 100% satisfied with it yet but it's close.
I had power washed the tractor the other day and I was doing a little sanding on that, I noticed there was a few rust holes in the top cover on the trans axle. Thought about slapping JB weld over them in place, but of course I couldn't bring myself to do it. So out the rear end comes, took the cover off and cleaned it up. Put JB weld on it, I think it will be OK like that can't see there being any issues. I'll sleep on it tonight may order another cover in the AM lol. Going to have to clean out the transaxle good, oil is pretty milky. For a tractor I'm not doing a restoration on it's getting awful close to looking like a restoration job. *sigh*

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Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:39 am
by Eugen
Oh yeah, that's some rust pitting there. The JB weld is amazing stuff, I once stuck a spark plug back into the head of a Crown Vic using JB weld, after it got blown out, someone before me blew the threads by over tightening it, and drove like that for a couple of weeks.

But I'd suggest before you fill in all those rust holes to give it a treatment with a good rust disolving product. The best I could find in Canada is the Krud Kutter Must for Rust Gel. You can find it at PA, Canadian Tire, Walmart. It's not super expensive and it treats quite a lot of surface. Costs about $17 per liter. It contains phosphoric acid and it's pretty much the only product that does, in Canada, as you can't get Ospho (lucky :usa: ). It's a squirt bottle, and I squirt it on a brush and then put a layer on. You leave it for a while, it literally converts rust to a primed surface, so you can just wipe the excess and paint over. In your case you'd apply the JB weld. If you leave it for a while it ends up as a white powdery surface, which you can brush off and directly paint over if you want. I found that stuff amazing. Anything else and as soon as you're done wire brushing or whatever, in a few minutes surface rust is back on. Not with this stuff. Anyway, I don't have any affiliation with the Krud Kutter product, just that I looked for somethig like this for a long time, and this is the only one that I found that works really well.

Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:04 pm
by mac102004
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Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:59 pm
by Eugen
:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :headbash: :headbash: :headbash: nowhere to find it in Ontario. Lucky man you!

Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:11 pm
by mac102004
Eugen wrote::furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :headbash: :headbash: :headbash: nowhere to find it in Ontario. Lucky man you!
Check out emerald coatings in Palmerston, I think it’s north of listowell area, they ship also.


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Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:22 pm
by Eugen
I did already, comes up to $83 after you add tax and shipping. :sigh: more $$ than the one I can get locally. Palmerston is more than 2h away. oh well...

Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:49 pm
by mac102004
Yep wasn’t cheap, wanted to try it. Works good. Not sure if it’s any better than regular Krud cutter, it’s pretty similar stuff. Not the gel but the regular bottle.


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Re: Snagged a 1977 444 Close to home

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:25 pm
by Eugen
I can tell you this that I was also looking for the ospho, because people talk so much about it on the net. But got the Krud Kutter as an impulse when I saw it on the shelf, and didn't even know that it contains phosphoric acid. Though, the SDS sheet says 19% for Krud Kutter and 45% for Ospho.

So, if you were to take the content of acid as what you pay for, then Ospho is probably cheaper. But I've been really amazed how well the Krud Kutter gell works. I applied it and after about 20 minutes I wiped it off. Now, with Ospho you could dilute it, in theory.

Tomatoe tomato you already have Ospho and I think you should use it on that rusty plate. Othewise you're bound to get some rust forming under the JB weld me thinks. :D

Glad you're making progress. I've been meaning to change the oil in the transfer case of both my 644 and 446. Not looking forward to what I'll find there. Probably milky stuff. :40: