Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

I'm kicking off a snow removal thread for pictures and videos

Here are a few videos from DON40207020 on the old forum. He's got a few more videos on youtube.

Here are a few videos from Grummy on the old forum:

Few Ingersoll tractors with Berco snowblowers.

Misc Case Ingersoll videos.

Thank you @MattA ! I enjoyed these videos! I am however now embarrassed to post any of my vids, my tractor won't be anything like what we see above

Eugen wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:04 pm Thank you @MattA ! I enjoyed these videos! I am however now embarrassed to post any of my vids, my tractor won't be anything like what we see above

I don't think you should be embarrassed, it is what it is. Getting to the bottom of performance issues and improving them is everybody's goal.
I've watched a bunch of them YouTube videos, there are plenty of them that are not throwing the snow beyond the next pass. Then there are the impressive ones. Unfortunately we don't know what they have done to achieve those results.

I have come to the conclusion that the modified/replaced chutes allow for much better control/direction of the snow. As for distance I don't know, some of the OEM chutes are getting some incredible distance, the stream is just blown apart. Not so good into the wind.

Efficiency through the blower seems to be the key. High rpms, tight clearances, no slippage in the drive system, and a smooth exit path.

I got some things to work on too, first year with the caster. (Mixed reviews so far) I don't need the tight direction control, but need to get more distance. First up is rubber paddles, repaint chute, and new hydraulic motor. (I'm running my tired hydraulic motor from my mower.)
Tim

Timj wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:34 pm Efficiency through the blower seems to be the key. High rpms, tight clearances, no slippage in the drive system, and a smooth exit path.

Possibly a strong engine too. Most of you guys have the 16 HP and up engines. Same in these videos.

I got some things to work on too, first year with the caster. (Mixed reviews so far) I don't need the tight direction control, but need to get more distance. First up is rubber paddles, repaint chute, and new hydraulic motor. (I'm running my tired hydraulic motor from my mower.)
Tim

We got some catch up to do eh? Keep up with the Joneses!

Eugen wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:09 pm

Timj wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:34 pm Efficiency through the blower seems to be the key. High rpms, tight clearances, no slippage in the drive system, and a smooth exit path.

Possibly a strong engine too. Most of you guys have the 16 HP and up engines. Same in these videos.

I got some things to work on too, first year with the caster. (Mixed reviews so far) I don't need the tight direction control, but need to get more distance. First up is rubber paddles, repaint chute, and new hydraulic motor. (I'm running my tired hydraulic motor from my mower.)
Tim

We got some catch up to do eh? Keep up with the Joneses!

I don't have to keep up with the Joneses, it's just got to work for me.

Great videos. Seen most of them before and most before I got a Case tractor. I watch a lot of snow removal videos of any kind of machine. Keep them coming.

Noel

Timj said: the stream is just blown apart. Not so good into the wind.

That’s very true. I’ve noticed that in the videos I watch. But maybe in a way it’s a good thing. That way it’s spread out and not all laying on top of your next passes, in one spot. I think we all know that throwing already thrown snow, two or three times thrown, is very hard to do. So maybe it helps if the snow is spread apart while leaving the thrower. And not good into the wind for sure. But thats where a power chute defector helps.

Noel

Timj wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:23 pm I don't have to keep up with the Joneses, it's just got to work for me.

Yes I know Tim, I was just joking. Didn't mean to say you're like that, sorry. For me improving the performance of these devices is both a pleasure and something useful.

Eugen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:31 am

Timj wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:23 pm I don't have to keep up with the Joneses, it's just got to work for me.

Yes I know Tim, I was just joking. Didn't mean to say you're like that, sorry. For me improving the performance of these devices is both a pleasure and something useful.

I knew what you meant, no need to apologize.

Hope you don't mind guys, I've opened a new topic single vs two stage and will move these messages there.

New thread here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=519

I have not had the right kind of snow yet. Mine has just been that light stuff you get when it is really cold.

But, I now have the hard pack I need on my gravel drive.

ssmewing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:26 am I have not had the right kind of snow yet. Mine has just been that light stuff you get when it is really cold.

But, I now have the hard pack I need on my gravel drive.

I hear you there I have had the same problem and am in the same situation .

Dave

ssmewing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:26 am I have not had the right kind of snow yet. Mine has just been that light stuff you get when it is really cold.

But, I now have the hard pack I need on my gravel drive.

Can't tell you how much I like that our gravel is frozen too. Used the snowcaster last night and I could safely use the float I really have to come up with some way of using float even when the gravel is loose.

I mostly create the hard pack myself if the first snows are driveable.

Other than that guys have added the thicker drain pipe in I think 1 1/2" with a slot to the scrapper bar. The size and placement of the pipe need to not reach the auger. On my first attempt, the auger ate it. After that, if you leave the pipe it will not remove all the snow. It also will not get jammed on uneven surfaces very often.

I suppose a guy could make a scraper out of metal tubing as the leading edge. Then you could change that one for a regular one. But, scrapers are hardly ever paid any attention. I have seen many that the edge was literally gone but the other edge if flipped was still there.

ssmewing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:54 pmBut, scrapers are hardly ever paid any attention. I have seen many that the edge was literally gone but the other edge if flipped was still there.

I hear that Some used ones I acquired the scrapers where worn beyond some of the mounting holes and the lip of the casters and blowers had to be cut out and replaced.


Gordy

ssmewing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:54 pm I mostly create the hard pack myself if the first snows are driveable.

Other than that guys have added the thicker drain pipe in I think 1 1/2" with a slot to the scrapper bar. The size and placement of the pipe need to not reach the auger. On my first attempt, the auger ate it. After that, if you leave the pipe it will not remove all the snow. It also will not get jammed on uneven surfaces very often.

I suppose a guy could make a scraper out of metal tubing as the leading edge. Then you could change that one for a regular one. But, scrapers are hardly ever paid any attention. I have seen many that the edge was literally gone but the other edge if flipped was still there.

"Other than that guys have added the thicker drain pipe in I think 1 1/2" with a slot to the scrapper bar. The size and placement of the pipe need to not reach the auger. On my first attempt, the auger ate it."

I should have explained that better. The larger the pipe the further the pipe slides into or onto the scrapper. And then it would be best if you start with a new scrapper edge. You can buy new from a dealer or new double thicknesses from some guys that have them made up.

So, to use extremes to explain, a 1/2" pipe would barely slide onto the scraper bar and will be nowhere near the auger. A 4" pipe with a cut would slide onto the scrapper would easily interfere with the auger.

ssmewing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:54 pm I mostly create the hard pack myself if the first snows are driveable.

Other than that guys have added the thicker drain pipe in I think 1 1/2" with a slot to the scrapper bar. The size and placement of the pipe need to not reach the auger. On my first attempt, the auger ate it. After that, if you leave the pipe it will not remove all the snow. It also will not get jammed on uneven surfaces very often.

I suppose a guy could make a scraper out of metal tubing as the leading edge. Then you could change that one for a regular one. But, scrapers are hardly ever paid any attention. I have seen many that the edge was literally gone but the other edge if flipped was still there.

I do the same thing Steve, try to get hard pack down early. Always hope to get a couple of lite snows first. This year had it the best I've had in years. Then 64° and rain then cold. Haven't been able to get it to stick since. Just goes to show Mother Nature is never going to make it easy.

The first big snow of winter 21-22 fell for 18 hours, hard packing, would plug the shoot when pushing to fast. Out of gas, check
hydraulic fitting leak, check
low air rear tire on left side, check
snow sticking to rear window, uhg
2 hours of play time, check

Spike

Yet you had fun in the snow for two hours! Nice! We got only about 10". The 444 had no trouble at all with the fresh snow.

Did you do something to fix your 444 Eugen. You had said it didn’t throw snow very well.

Noel

Spike188 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:49 pm The first big snow of winter 21-22 fell for 18 hours, hard packing, would plug the shoot when pushing to fast.448 first snow 2022-1.jpg
Out of gas, check
hydraulic fitting leak, check
low air rear tire on left side, check
snow sticking to rear window, uhg
2 hours of play time, check

Spike

How do you find backing up for long periods of time . I am finding it more and more difficult .

Dave

Propane57 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:23 am Did you do something to fix your 444 Eugen. You had said it didn’t throw snow very well.

Noel

Noel, I didn't do anything. The fresh snow it can throw about 20 ft. The old heavy snow from last week it could throw only about 3-4 meters. I still plan to improve it but it does the job even so.

@DavidBarkey I do find stiffness setting in quicker as age plays knick knack paddywhack on my bones. Years ago in a driving course, the instructor claimed that as a person ages, they turn their head with less rotation. His claim was that older drivers do not look over their shoulders enough when changing lanes. One of the exercises to slow that process down for the head and back rotations is a simply twisting as far you can, then try twisting a bit more. A week of doing these a routines a couple of times daily will make a noticeable difference. Guys half my age have seen some of the spaces and positions required to reach a bolt or control cable and ask how old I am.

The short answer is yes, backing up is a bit more difficult but the 448 has a seat with fold up arm rest. Sitting at 40 degrees with feet planted on one step works best. The cab makes putting clod-hoper shoes on the same foot rest tight so any quick movements will be out of the question.

My drive is about 200 feet long with turning around on the high traffic road out of the question. The parking landing at the top of a hill has limited space. Because of turning limitations and traction issues a rear mounted blower works best. Prevailing winds also plays a huge roll in the direction of travel. Pushing up hill with the wind and directing the thrower shoot to create a ridge along the down wind side of the driveway takes less clearing. Another advantage to the ridge is to prevent driving off of the hill and into the farmers field.

For flat drives with room to maneuver, a front mount would be preferred.

Spike

Jan 18, 2022, the day after the big dump doing cleanup. The cutting edge of the Burco is bent and ripped loose on the right-hand side. It caught on a rock protruding out of the frozen drive. It was definitely felt when the blade caught. Small rocks were also a problem getting picked up and jamming the impeller.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/3LpTFRPrDFw[/youtube]
At 0:52 a stone lodges in the blower. Merri even recorded herself laughing at me for not raising the blower enough on forward travel. For Merri's enjoyment the blooper is left uncut.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/pcsDhKpfQTU[/youtube]

She played with fast motion video on this one.

Spike

it's good you can be so entertaining.
nice train catch, is the videographer a railfan, too?