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Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:13 pm
by myerslawnandgarden
MattA wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:02 pm
Looks good Eugene. Maybe consider adding a second hydraulic cooler? AFAIK the plastic belly pan is no longer available. My 2001 4016 doesn't have one.
MattA,
Not sure where you obtained your information. The original part number for the manual steering tractors was C31369, we have 7 in stock. There is a new number for that item, C48737 which I checked availability on and Ingersoll Parts has 23 on hand. The one for power steering tractors, C33580 is discontinued and subs the the C48737.
The number of tractors missing the belly pans seems very similar to the missing loader tractor dash panels. Perhaps they eloped somewhere??
For what it's worth, I would never, never, never run a 3000/4000 series tractor without the belly pan in place unless for mowing only or winter operation. Might as well just throw the oil cooler in the garbage if you're not going to draw any air through it.
Bob
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:14 pm
by myerslawnandgarden
myerslawnandgarden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:13 pm
MattA wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:02 pm
Looks good Eugene. Maybe consider adding a second hydraulic cooler? AFAIK the plastic belly pan is no longer available. My 2001 4016 doesn't have one.
MattA,
Not sure where you obtained your information. The original part number for the manual steering tractors was C31369, we have 7 in stock. There is a new number for that item, C48737 which I checked availability on and Ingersoll Parts has 23 on hand. The one for power steering tractors, C33580 is discontinued and subs the the C48737.
The number of tractors missing the belly pans seems very similar to the missing loader tractor dash panels. Perhaps they eloped somewhere??
For what it's worth, I would never, never, never run a 3000/4000 series tractor without the belly pan in place unless for mowing only or winter operation. Might as well just throw the oil cooler in the garbage if you're not going to draw any air through it.
Bob
Eugene,
Forgot to add, NO MOWING HIGH RANGE!!!
Bob
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:49 pm
by MattA
Bob - I'm probably going to order a belly pan now that I know they are in stock.
@Spike188 https://www.casecoltingersoll.com/threa ... ost-756649
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:52 pm
by Spike188
:Lol Bob @myerslawnandgarden , I know that doing it was like hanging a Cresent wrench on Moline UB governor. It would go twice as fast for a while.
Mowing in high gear only saved me some seat time this one and only time I did it. It added an oily mess of dying grass where the line came off, another mess in front of the garage, and about 3 hours of oily grimy work. In the end, no time was saved.
If it wasn't for border customs and brokerage, a new tank would have been my preference. I have heard of tanks delimitation and fouling the hydraulic system.
Also I haven't checked out the plastic belly pan but am almost sure that this tractor has one.
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:30 pm
by MattA
myerslawnandgarden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:13 pm
MattA wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:02 pm
Looks good Eugene. Maybe consider adding a second hydraulic cooler? AFAIK the plastic belly pan is no longer available. My 2001 4016 doesn't have one.
MattA,
Not sure where you obtained your information. The original part number for the manual steering tractors was C31369, we have 7 in stock. There is a new number for that item, C48737 which I checked availability on and Ingersoll Parts has 23 on hand. The one for power steering tractors, C33580 is discontinued and subs the the C48737.
The number of tractors missing the belly pans seems very similar to the missing loader tractor dash panels. Perhaps they eloped somewhere??
For what it's worth, I would never, never, never run a 3000/4000 series tractor without the belly pan in place unless for mowing only or winter operation. Might as well just throw the oil cooler in the garbage if you're not going to draw any air through it.
Bob
I looked for the info and I think the belly pan was just out of stock. My mistake.
Another good read:
https://www.casecoltingersoll.com/threa ... ost-745671
FWIW I've mowed for several years in high range with my hydravac, no belly pan and 5W-40 full synthetic with no known issues. I'm also not mowing a small mountain either. I will look into adding one.
/thread hijack
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:25 pm
by Harry
I don’t own any four digit GT’s. Why did they add the belly pans?
Harry
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:10 pm
by myerslawnandgarden
Harry wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:25 pm
I don’t own any four digit GT’s. Why did they add the belly pans?
Harry
Harry,
The 3 digit tractors have the plastic cooling fan directly behind the heat exchanger to pull air through it. After redesigning the tractors and turning the engine around in the frame, the oil cooler mounts to the side of the dash tower and relies on the engine flywheel fan to pull air through it. Without the bottom of the frame being partially sealed off with the belly pan, most of the cooling air for the engine is drawn in from the bottom rather than through the two sides of the dash tower. Simple physics, airflow takes the path of least resistance.
Bob
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:37 pm
by Spike188
You can tell the 4016 has a belly pan because of the grass build up on the perforated side panels.
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:15 pm
by MattA
Spike188 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:37 pm
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You can tell the 4016 has a belly pan because of the grass build up on the perforated side panels.
Looks like about 40% of your panel is covered. Without the belly pan I get about 10%. Maybe you need to stop periodically and clean the grass off the panel. How does the heat exchanger under the panel look? I tend to get a small amount of grass built up between the panel and the heat exchanger. Usually I can suck most of the grass back through the panel with my shop vac. About once a year I remove the panel for a better cleaning.
Re: There she blows, a 4016 oil leak
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:18 pm
by MattA
All fixed up?
