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Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:04 am
by JSinMO
Eugen wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:35 pm Keep the set course Jeff! An idea did come to me when I saw that blob of solder in the middle.


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I would melt that blob with a soldering gun and suck the solder with this tool


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because I have one. Then I would drill a tiny hole there if the original hole was not open. Would fill the float with water and then keep the float with hole downwards so the water inside gathers at the hole and either suck or push air in with a syringe with thin needle, which would force the water out. I happen to have a syringe too from giving the dog injections.

Then I'd heat the seam all around with a mini butane torch, as I have one of those too, and take the two halves apart. If it didn't come apart I'd just do fresh solder with the torch all around, just like in plumbing, and wipe excess solder with a wet rag.

If it did come apart I'd clean up both halves and solder them back together.

To solder the remaining hole I'd keep the float with the hole downwards and heat up the spot with the torch touching the spot with solder from time to time until a blob sticks nicely at the hole. I'd keep the float with the blob down as the weight of the blob counteracts the possible sucking that might happen there. How's that for a hairy suggestion?! :D

I'm not done though. I would also silver plate it. Don't laugh, I've done it to parts of a boat carb I used to have. :violin:

Dang, I wish there wasn’t 700 miles between us because you’re hired!

That’s a good plan for sure. :thumbsup: If I can’t make it work don’t be surprised if you get a package in the mail with a float it, with a note asking you to fix it! No silver plating necessary. :D

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:50 am
by Eugen
One thing that comes to mind is the weight of the float. Whatever the fix is, the weight should probably not increase too much. Some deviation would be fine as you can adjust the tab so the float closes the gas intake as it should. Easy with the goo, I guess that's what I'm saying, but I'm sure you'd have been careful with that anyway.

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:58 pm
by JSinMO
Well the float has been empty and vented for a few days now so I got the soldering gun out and closed the hole I drilled.
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Then I applied the Seal All to the seam all around the float. It’s clear and spreads nice and thin. I went with one coat so I don’t think I changed the weight enough to hurt anything.
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I followed the instructions and waited well past the full cure time and then I tested it. I submerged it in gas for several hours, (this time in a gas resistant container!).
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I can report that @propane1 and @Jancoe are absolutely correct!
I cleaned off the float and no leaks! The gas appears to have no effect on the Seal All! Good call guys :thumbsup:
So I’m calling the float ready to install.

I did some cleaning on the carburetor, and intake. Then I decided to take a look at that front wheel cylinder.
Dug around till I found a grease fitting that was a close match to the treads. It took some pressure but the piston came loose!
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I immediately cleaned all the grease up and believe it or not the seal and bore look great! I don’t see a problem with them. I looks like the aluminum piston was stuck to the bore.
It did clean up but the very edge of it is rotted away.
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I really think it’s reusable! So now the question is do it try it?
I do have new ones ordered but I haven’t got confirmation of shipment yet, so I’m thinking I’ll wait to see if the new ones come and keep this for a spare. Hopefully the other side turns out as good!

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:08 pm
by propane1
That’s all great news Jeff.

Noel

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:36 am
by Eugen
Glad you fixed it @JSinMO, nicely done! I will get myself some of that allseal! Seems to be the kind of thing you want to have around. Thank you Noel for mentioning it! :cheers:

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:02 am
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:36 am Glad you fixed it @JSinMO, nicely done! I will get myself some of that allseal! Seems to be the kind of thing you want to have around. Thank you Noel for mentioning it! :cheers:
Ya , me too . Googled it . Watch where you buy it .
2 oz. / 59.1 ml
Amazon reseller $39.08 can
CTC $8.49
Local hardware store range $8-$9 for that size .

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:10 am
by Eugen
DavidBarkey wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:02 am Ya , me too . Googled it . Watch where you buy it .
2 oz. / 59.1 ml
Amazon reseller $39.08 can
CTC $8.49
Local hardware store range $8-$9 for that size .
Thanks for the tip Dave! I'll look for it next time I go to Canadian tire. :thumbsup:

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:29 pm
by JSinMO
DavidBarkey wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:02 am
Eugen wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:36 am Glad you fixed it @JSinMO, nicely done! I will get myself some of that allseal! Seems to be the kind of thing you want to have around. Thank you Noel for mentioning it! :cheers:
Ya , me too . Googled it . Watch where you buy it .
2 oz. / 59.1 ml
Amazon reseller $39.08 can
CTC $8.49
Local hardware store range $8-$9 for that size .
I found that to be the case south of the border as well. Lowe’s was twice as much as the auto parts store.

Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:10 pm
by JSinMO
What I hope will be the last of the parts I need arrived Thursday afternoon noon. :69: it sounds kinda dumb I guess but knowing I’d be reassembling things today made it hard to sleep last night! :violin: :))

I can get things done but there is no doubt I wouldn’t make it in a real shop, I’m SLOW :109: ! I usually set the bar to high as to what I can accomplish in a day, and today was no exception. I thought I should take may time and get it right so that’s what I did, but Id hoped I be bleeding brakes today, nope.

New right front wheel cylinder installed. New seal, re checked my bearings and adjusted the brakes.
Cleaned the right rear bearings, installed the new seal and installed the rear drum and axel back on the truck.

Put the tires on that side.
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There’s really no need to put the duel on yet, but I just had to see how it looks! I like it!
I only put a couple of nuts on the axel for now, just in case it has to come back apart for some reason and all the lug nuts will need to be torqued, but the passenger side is together.

Moved my jacks and cribbing to the left front and took it apart. Other than a leaking seal and the stuck cylinder it looks good.
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New wheel cylinder installed. I cleaned and painted the drum and cleaned the bearings so tomorrow its ready to go back together. That leaves one wheel left to disassemble and clean up then finally I can start bleeding.

The old drivers side wheel cylinder was the same as the other one, piston stuck but seal in good shape. I used the grease trick again and got it apart and cleaned up. I have no doubt these could be put back into service if I ever needed to.
The question to you guys is; Does anyone know a good way to preserve the rubber seals and boots for storage?
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Re: 1961 Ford F500 project.

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:07 am
by Eugen
You got a lot done Jeff! The truck's starting to look well, especially with the duals at the back. I have no particular experience with storing rubber but definitely sun will not help. I'd say in a contractor garbage bag taped so it's almost sealed, and kept in a dark place. :thumbsup: