Re: Messing around in the shop
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:34 pm
"Free came at a cost of being unreliable..."
Are we talking about wind and solar now?

Are we talking about wind and solar now?
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New topic in Everything else! Go for it, break the ice!thebuildist wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:34 pm "Free came at a cost of being unreliable..."
Are we talking about wind and solar now?
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In Canada , we do not own the mineral rights . The Federal government does unless it sells/leases it to a third party , but is governed by the local Municipality . Up here when you buy a property you are only buying the top 18" of the soil . That is why when you dig for a foundation , septic, pool , or change the elevation of the land ect. you must get a Permit (ask for permission ) to dig beyound the 18" . This is why most gas lines ect. are only 18" -24" below grade here . Thats only as far as they have to go Not to be on private land , it's under it .JSinMO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 7:41 pm @Eugen I agree with you. Although corporate greed certainly isn’t a new phenomenon, it sure seems to have grown exponentially in our lifetime.
@Spike188 brings up a big con on the whole idea. 3/16 of the revenue to sell you mineral rights. And it would absolutely be my luck they would shut down production in February without me having enough storage to make it to spring.
If you own your mineral rights I believe a fellow can drill for them if he wanted to in a lot of areas, but when you figure all the up front costs of permits, drill rig, materials, needed equipment, and then the upkeep it would be difficult and not very profitable to do it without a gas company involved.
Maybe @RoamingGnome friends had the right idea to find a property that already has a well!
Wow that is totally foreign to me. The only permitting we have is a building permit and in my area it’s so rural we really don’t even have that. I wouldn’t disparage what the rules are in other areas, and certainly not another country, but if I’m buying ground I expect to be buying all of it, not just the dust on top.DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:13 amIn Canada , we do not own the mineral rights . The Federal government does unless it sells/leases it to a third party , but is governed by the local Municipality . Up here when you buy a property you are only buying the top 18" of the soil . That is why when you dig for a foundation , septic, pool , or change the elevation of the land ect. you must get a Permit (ask for permission ) to dig beyound the 18" . This is why most gas lines ect. are only 18" -24" below grade here . Thats only as far as they have to go Not to be on private land , it's under it .JSinMO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 7:41 pm @Eugen I agree with you. Although corporate greed certainly isn’t a new phenomenon, it sure seems to have grown exponentially in our lifetime.
@Spike188 brings up a big con on the whole idea. 3/16 of the revenue to sell you mineral rights. And it would absolutely be my luck they would shut down production in February without me having enough storage to make it to spring.
If you own your mineral rights I believe a fellow can drill for them if he wanted to in a lot of areas, but when you figure all the up front costs of permits, drill rig, materials, needed equipment, and then the upkeep it would be difficult and not very profitable to do it without a gas company involved.
Maybe @RoamingGnome friends had the right idea to find a property that already has a well!
I didn't know that either.JSinMO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:17 pmWow that is totally foreign to me. The only permitting we have is a building permit and in my area it’s so rural we really don’t even have that. I wouldn’t disparage what the rules are in other areas, and certainly not another country, but if I’m buying ground I expect to be buying all of it, not just the dust on top.DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:13 am In Canada , we do not own the mineral rights . The Federal government does unless it sells/leases it to a third party , but is governed by the local Municipality . Up here when you buy a property you are only buying the top 18" of the soil . That is why when you dig for a foundation , septic, pool , or change the elevation of the land ect. you must get a Permit (ask for permission ) to dig beyound the 18" . This is why most gas lines ect. are only 18" -24" below grade here . Thats only as far as they have to go Not to be on private land , it's under it .