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Re: 40 below
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:45 am
by DavidBarkey
Propane57 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:09 am
Gordy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:04 pm
Timj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:06 pm
Had that happen once. Pressure was so low the furnace wouldn't work. If I never see that cold again it will be fine with me.
I thought it happened to me. But was only -25F, I would only get a small puff of flame in the furnace. The tank was showing 60%. I decided to run the kitchen stove for a bit, but again only got a small puff of flame from it also. I tried it a number of times then left the burners on with the igniter snapping away. After 5 to 10 minutes they lit up and stayed on, I reset the furnace and it started and ran fine. I shut the stove off and the furnace ran until the house was up to temp. When the furnace tried to restart it was the same small puff
I started the stove again,then the furnace. I had to leave one burner of the store set to low and burning to keep the furnace running as it should. Did I mention this was at 2:00 am
I called the LP company as soon as they opened, After I told them what happened, they replaced both of the 2 year old regulators.
Gordy
Ya Gordy. That was a different problem. Your regulators were froze up. If you warmed the regulators they would work. Warm water , hair dryer or what ever. Once warm they will work. But May freeze again, and maybe not. Moisture in your tanks is what causes that.
Noel
Moisture in the tanks ? I understand condensation in a gasoline tank but in a propane tank ? Or is it naturally some vapour in it like natural gas
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Dave
Re: 40 below
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:26 am
by propane1
When the tanks are new they are full of air. They have to be purged of air before being but into service. If not done correctly air will remain in the tank. Monday morning or Friday afternoon tank purges , hehe.
Every time the tank is filled, your trapping a little air between the tank valve and the connecting filler hose.
Propane vapor is heavier than air. So it’s always with the propane vapour at the top of the tank.
Noel
Re: 40 below
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:33 am
by propane1
Years ago at mom and dads place they burned oil. And at 2:00 am dad and I out getting the froze oil filter un froze so we could have heat again. Next day I moved the filter inside to the basement.
That was cold.
Noel
Re: 40 below
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:12 am
by Gordy
Propane57 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:26 am
When the tanks are new they are full of air. They have to be purged of air before being but into service. If not done correctly air will remain in the tank. Monday morning or Friday afternoon tank purges , hehe.
Every time the tank is filled, your trapping a little air between the tank valve and the connecting filler hose.
Propane vapor is heavier than air. So it’s always with the propane vapour at the top of the tank.
Noel
When the tank and regulators were installed, the regulator on the house was fitted with a 12-14 inch down pipe on the vent. The kid (18-20 year old) that replaced the regulators blamed the down pipe for the freeze up. And asked why I installed it, I told him not me your guys did it when they set up the system.
Gordy
Re: 40 below
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:02 pm
by propane1
Well if the pipe froze over, the the regulator diagram can’t move back and forth to give correct pressure. So the regulator can freeze internally from moisture or externally from moisture. Freezing rain normally externally. Was the regulator covered. If outside to the weather it should be covered to keep the vent from freezing over. Some regulators have two vents. Some only one. Vents must be facing downward.
Noel
Re: 40 below
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:17 pm
by Gordy
Propane57 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:02 pm
Well if the pipe froze over, the the regulator diagram can’t move back and forth to give correct pressure. So the regulator can freeze internally from moisture or externally from moisture. Freezing rain normally externally. Was the regulator covered. If outside to the weather it should be covered to keep the vent from freezing over. Some regulators have two vents. Some only one. Vents must be facing downward.
Noel
No cover on this one, just screwed to the side of the house. It was installed that way by the Gas company. Come to think of it I don't recall ever seeing one covered, except the primary regulator under the hood of the tank.
Gordy
Re: 40 below
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:06 pm
by propane1
Your propane company should have them, or just make something to put over it. Cover the whole thing. But leave all the bottom open.
Noel
Re: 40 below
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:37 am
by DavidBarkey
Another cold snap coming in over night for a couple of days . Had to bring one in as his face all swollen . May have to bring in the roosters for a couple of days . A large number of people on the Ontario chicken site have the same problem . They haven't had a chance to heal from the frostbite from this last one . Made some improvements to the run so I hope it helps . It has been suck drastic change they didn't get a chance to use to it .
Dave
Re: 40 below
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:57 am
by Eugen
But the chicken are not affected, just the rooster?
Re: 40 below
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:18 pm
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:57 am
But the chicken are not affected, just the rooster?
The hens for the most part have very small combs and waddles and then to put their heads under the wings . The boys are to big for that and there "red parts " on there head are basicly bare skin .
Dave