Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

ÀH guy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:02 am Eugen, when you say "keeping the tractor going straight", is the front being pushed/pulled around by the implement your pulling or you can't turn when you want, or both. Probably both.

Is lack of front weight part of the issue?

I don't have a front weight, and have issues when I have my Hydra bagger on on the hilly parts of my lawn.
I've been meaning to build something, but never seem to get to it.
Tim

Tim, with the 446 I think I never had enough front weight in the garden, as it often went nose up. Shouldn't be the case with the 644 as I can load the bucket with a lot of weight.

Eugen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:41 pm

ÀH guy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:02 am Eugen, when you say "keeping the tractor going straight", is the front being pushed/pulled around by the implement your pulling or you can't turn when you want, or both. Probably both.

Is lack of front weight part of the issue?

I don't have a front weight, and have issues when I have my Hydra bagger on on the hilly parts of my lawn.
I've been meaning to build something, but never seem to get to it.
Tim

Tim, with the 446 I think I never had enough front weight in the garden, as it often went nose up. Shouldn't be the case with the 644 as I can load the bucket with a lot of weight.

That is me too. Don't do much in the garden so I slide around or do wheelies and tolerate it. .
The loader out front should help, and the right amount of ballast should help you find the sweet spot between steering and traction.

I must say wheelies with Frankie is not a problem as such . The front end does get light when dragging the disks with the loader removed . It helps a lot that the frame is 9" longer in the middle and the extra frame reinforcements , larger hydro tank exc. and loader towers are all ahead of the rear wheels .
The trailer wheels are 5.7 -8 6ply on 5 bolt rims
Dave

ÀH guy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:02 am I don't have a front weight, and have issues when I have my Hydra bagger on on the hilly parts of my lawn.
I've been meaning to build something, but never seem to get to it.
Tim

I've got the same problem. I kind of assumed if I didn't have this little 16HP vanguard motor under the hood and had a big old Onan, the front end would stay down better. I bought a bracket to hold two suitcase weights which I could mount to the decks mule drive but decided not to go that route. I bought some older Craftsman zero turn front weights which I planed to mount to the front of my tractor but never got there either. The weights are actually a configurable weight stack. 35lbs cast weight + 3x 5lb steel plates.

Before getting the 644 I had plans to weld something to a mule drive on the 446 so I could put some of the big tractor weights. If the 644 doesn't work well in the garden I'll do it and report any improvement if so.