Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
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Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
I am trying to get the 4118 back together so I can sell it one of these days! I have the choke and the throttle hooked up, but wow, They go all over the place. I have a 4020 that has essentially the same engine, so it should probably be the same, correct? But there are a bunch of baffles between here and the compared to the 4020.
Does any one have a picture that shows the cable routing for this 4118, or 4116, or 4120?
Even my personal email should work if it is easier to post a picture.
Thanks!
Bill Moyer
Does any one have a picture that shows the cable routing for this 4118, or 4116, or 4120?
Even my personal email should work if it is easier to post a picture.
Thanks!
Bill Moyer
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
Bill, I'll see what I can do about getting some pics of mine tomorrow.Seabee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:50 pm I am trying to get the 4118 back together so I can sell it one of these days! I have the choke and the throttle hooked up, but wow, They go all over the place. I have a 4020 that has essentially the same engine, so it should probably be the same, correct? But there are a bunch of baffles between here and the compared to the 4020.
Does any one have a picture that shows the cable routing for this 4118, or 4116, or 4120?
Even my personal email should work if it is easier to post a picture.
Thanks!
Bill Moyer
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
Bill, didn't have time to remove the air cleaner housing, but I think I should be able to get you there without removing it.
On my 4118 the cables run from the control levers down the right rear tower support, then up the right front tower support. They then come up under the hydraulic oil tank The choke cable then goes through the center of the shield and to the carb The throttle cable runs behind shield to left rear of the motor.
Hope this helps.
Tim
On my 4118 the cables run from the control levers down the right rear tower support, then up the right front tower support. They then come up under the hydraulic oil tank The choke cable then goes through the center of the shield and to the carb The throttle cable runs behind shield to left rear of the motor.
Hope this helps.
Tim
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
Thank You Tim,
That looks so much neater than the way I have it hooked up. Mine works but it looks like heck! I had fire in the hole earlier tonight! Now I can go ahead and finish the tractor and run the cables to where it makes sense.
I must have gotten the valves just right because as soon as I applied fuel to it it fired.
Thanks again.
Bill Moyer
That looks so much neater than the way I have it hooked up. Mine works but it looks like heck! I had fire in the hole earlier tonight! Now I can go ahead and finish the tractor and run the cables to where it makes sense.
I must have gotten the valves just right because as soon as I applied fuel to it it fired.
Thanks again.
Bill Moyer
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
Sounds like you're getting close, Bill. Hope to see some pics when it's finished.
Tim
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
It's a good feeling when the engine comes to life after an overhaul!
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
It is a good feeling when you get things back together and they come to life.We had checked all the safeties 2-3 times depending on which stage the job was in. When it fire so well last night I was a bit surprised. I figured there would be at least one safety we would have to chase down. On that AH tractor it is a nightmare of safeties. But as of last night, we got all the safeties set correctly, apparently!
Since the engine hadn't run prior to me buying it, I was good to hear it go off like that. Seller had offered to go direct and start it by jumping it, so I assumed it was possible. I don't know yet how much oil is in the Hydraulic system, but I poured most of a gallon and half to prime the system before trying to start, and there is still room in the tank for some more. Maybe tomorrow I will let it run a bit more to get the air out of the system, try the power steering, etc.
Anyway I am excited to finish it now!
Thanks Guys!
Bill Moyer
Since the engine hadn't run prior to me buying it, I was good to hear it go off like that. Seller had offered to go direct and start it by jumping it, so I assumed it was possible. I don't know yet how much oil is in the Hydraulic system, but I poured most of a gallon and half to prime the system before trying to start, and there is still room in the tank for some more. Maybe tomorrow I will let it run a bit more to get the air out of the system, try the power steering, etc.
Anyway I am excited to finish it now!
Thanks Guys!
Bill Moyer
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
This is actually an update. I added gas to the tank today so it would run through the carb I had just rebuilt and cleaned. It started from the tank very quickly and we ran it for a short bit before we discovered a leak at the back axle. Loose hydraulic connectors from the axle to the TCV. Tightened them up and no leak there. Had one hose clamp under the dash that was slightly loose and it slowly leaked some oil. Saw no further leaks as we ran it slowly for about 5 minutes. While it was running I had the rear axle in neutral and moved the Travel from forward to backward to help flush air out of system, and the power steering was working well. It seems as though it is going to be back together soon.
One issue we are looking at is that the Hydraulic pump bracket isn't sitting on the rubber damper. While running I can actually put my little finger under it. It makes a bit of chatter when running, but if I push the bracket down, the noise goes away. How to relieve that are so the bracket rides on the bumper is my issue right now.
We are getting a lot of tin work back on the tractor so it looks like it is going to live!!!!!!!
Bill Moyer
One issue we are looking at is that the Hydraulic pump bracket isn't sitting on the rubber damper. While running I can actually put my little finger under it. It makes a bit of chatter when running, but if I push the bracket down, the noise goes away. How to relieve that are so the bracket rides on the bumper is my issue right now.
We are getting a lot of tin work back on the tractor so it looks like it is going to live!!!!!!!
Bill Moyer
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
How do I upload pictures to the site? Got some pictures of the 4118 running.
Yesterday when we had it running there was a rattle seemed to be coming from the pump mechanism. Pump bracket wasn't on the rubber bumper. With it running you could put your finger between the pump bracket and the rubber bumper. When you pushed down on the bracket with it running the rattle went away. So today we had things apart to relax some of the hoses.
We got it back together and started it. The bracket and bumper are running where they are supposed be running, and when I speed it up a bit the rattle comes back, but not as loud as it did yesterday.
Any Ideas?
Thanks!
Bill
Yesterday when we had it running there was a rattle seemed to be coming from the pump mechanism. Pump bracket wasn't on the rubber bumper. With it running you could put your finger between the pump bracket and the rubber bumper. When you pushed down on the bracket with it running the rattle went away. So today we had things apart to relax some of the hoses.
We got it back together and started it. The bracket and bumper are running where they are supposed be running, and when I speed it up a bit the rattle comes back, but not as loud as it did yesterday.
Any Ideas?
Thanks!
Bill
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Re: Trottle and choke routing on the AH tractors
Bill see these pictures below on how to upload pictures
Give each picture enough time to upload. It will show up in a list below the text you are typing. There will also be a button named "Place inline" which will insert the picture at the place in text where your typing cursor is.
Give each picture enough time to upload. It will show up in a list below the text you are typing. There will also be a button named "Place inline" which will insert the picture at the place in text where your typing cursor is.
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