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Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:14 pm
by FreddyFont
New member and first owner of an Ingersoll 4016. I had been looking for one for a long time and was fortunate to get a good deal on a like new "barn find" with rear hydraulic and 36 hours. She has a few blemishes from sitting and was housing a few mice on top of the heat shield so it caused a bit of rust from the moisture around one of the head light. I had to add better ground wire to get them working again, got it all cleaned up and up and running smoothly after changing the fluids and spark plugs. It came with a mower and wood chipper!

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:41 pm
by Spike188
@FreddyFont Your have an Case/Ingersoll woodchipper so can we assume that the 4016 has remote hydraulics? Does it have a 3 point hitch? What is the tractor serial number?

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:42 pm
by Eugen
A great find for sure, I don't think I've seen one in such good shape around here. All you need is some more attachments!

Thanks for joining the forum and I hope you like it here.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:29 pm
by JSinMO
Welcome. That’s an amazing looking machine!
I think it needs some hours on it!

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:51 pm
by Timj
:wave2: welcome to CCIGT @FreddyFont good to have you here. Your tractor is an awesome find, :thumbsup: they're some great little workhorses. Should give you years of service. I bought my 4118 new 1993, over 1300 hrs.
Hope you enjoy your time here and join in. :highfive:
:geek: Tim

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:58 pm
by FreddyFont
Spike188 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:41 pm @FreddyFont Your have an Case/Ingersoll woodchipper so can we assume that the 4016 has remote hydraulics? Does it have a 3 point hitch? What is the tractor serial number?
Yes, its the Ingersoll wood chipper, has the rear hydro under the seat. No 3pt. Serial starts with 17... if I remember correctly

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:13 pm
by Spike188
We should be able to :j up
the model year with the serial number.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:40 am
by propane1
Welcome Freddy. Nice looking tractor. I curious about the plastic bubble around the car. Do you have a fan in ther to circulate air every where while storing the car. ?

Noel.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:17 am
by MattA
Very nice 4016. Does yours have the webbed backhoe transaxle? Does it start and run ok from sitting so long?

I scored my 4016 six years ago with 55hrs πŸ‘

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:38 am
by MattA
I saw your extra pictures on the other forum. Look's like you also have the backhoe transaxle which is a late model orange frame 4000 series before the switch over to black frames. Mine was built around the year 2000.

While my tractor is in decent shape, yours is much nicer. The previous owner of mine only used mine for snow removal. It had a cab, snowcaster, weights and chains on it year round. I've got some rust between the tower and the seat and in the rims on the seams of the metal from winter salt. I wash my tractor real good in the spring to get the salt off but I'm not sure the previous owner did.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:47 am
by DavidBarkey
Welcome to the site and the addiction that is CCIGTs. :446cart: Beatty of a machine you have there .

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:19 am
by FreddyFont
Propane57 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:40 am Welcome Freddy. Nice looking tractor. I curious about the plastic bubble around the car. Do you have a fan in ther to circulate air every where while storing the car. ?

Noel.
Yes, has a small fan to circulate air. I have a hobby horse farm and mice tend to find their way inside the garage during the winter. Its thick bottom plastic and the clear top zips around.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:26 am
by FreddyFont
MattA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:38 am I saw your extra pictures on the other forum. Look's like you also have the backhoe transaxle which is a late model orange frame 4000 series before the switch over to black frames. Mine was built around the year 2000.
Nice!
I think it's around the same year. I had looked serial numbers somewhere but they only had up to 2000 and the one I have was after that. Engine code is 01 so I'm thinking its a 2001-ish.

I'm not sure what you mean about the transaxle, I was changing the oil in it yesterday and didn't notice lol! Is it the set of holes on each side? I'll get a picture of it to show you.

It runs fine now that I have drained the fuel, changed the spark plugs and new engine oil/filter. I haven't used it much yet, I want to drain the hydraulic oil and replace the filter. Just waiting on the "oem" hydraulic oil filter to arrive i wasn't sure what to get so got that from a vendor in the states. Since I was placing an order I got a few on the way!

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:10 am
by propane1
So Freddy. Does the top bubble have small holes to let air out. You don’t get any moisture in there ? And where did you buy it. Son has a couple of cars he stores.

Noel

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:17 am
by Timj
FreddyFont wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:26 am
MattA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:38 am I saw your extra pictures on the other forum. Look's like you also have the backhoe transaxle which is a late model orange frame 4000 series before the switch over to black frames. Mine was built around the year 2000.
Nice!
I think it's around the same year. I had looked serial numbers somewhere but they only had up to 2000 and the one I have was after that. Engine code is 01 so I'm thinking its a 2001-ish.

I'm not sure what you mean about the transaxle, I was changing the oil in it yesterday and didn't notice lol! Is it the set of holes on each side? I'll get a picture of it to show you.

It runs fine now that I have drained the fuel, changed the spark plugs and new engine oil/filter. I haven't used it much yet, I want to drain the hydraulic oil and replace the filter. Just waiting on the "oem" hydraulic oil filter to arrive i wasn't sure what to get so got that from a vendor in the states. Since I was placing an order I got a few on the way!
Good call with the OEM hydraulic filter, :thumbsup: they are one of the things that non-oem has not worked well. Other things there are alternatives.
We are lucky to have some great dealers for parts, it's unfortunate for those in :canada: the shipping gets so pricey.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:44 am
by FreddyFont
Propane57 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:10 am So Freddy. Does the top bubble have small holes to let air out. You don’t get any moisture in there ? And where did you buy it. Son has a couple of cars he stores.

Noel
No moisture at all. Its from CarCapsule. It wasn't much more than my factory car cover. Folds to fit in a storage bin. So far been running great, non stop from mid Sept to mid May, 2 years in a row.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:48 am
by FreddyFont
MattA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:17 am Very nice 4016. Does yours have the webbed backhoe transaxle? Does it start and run ok from sitting so long?

I scored my 4016 six years ago with 55hrs πŸ‘
Is that it??

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:17 am
by Spike188
That is the webbing added in 1975 to support the Davis backhoe. The 2 holes are also mounting points for a sleeve hitch.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:18 am
by Eugen
The axle instead of being a cone has these plates welded along them as reinforcement. This is the type of axle that the factory backhoe equipped models came with.

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Well, maybe the webbing is cast not welded but you get the idea.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:39 am
by FreddyFont
Thanks for the info!!

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:43 am
by Harry
Welcome to the CCIGT site Freddy. I saw your post on the original site and it's a pleasure to have you here also. Your 4016 looks very nice thanks for posting the pics. Very knowledable members here, so if you have any questions fire away.

Keep the :peace: :cop:
Harry

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:19 am
by MattA
Looks like my engine code is also 01.

Here is my transaxle. As far as I know the webbing is cast in. I've seen some older backhoe transaxles with smaller webbing. This late model transaxle has the updated differential and slightly different gearing. It's slightly faster in low range and slightly slower in high range.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:23 am
by MattA
When you get around to it, change the transaxle oil. There is some info around on the weight and fill levels. The side of the transaxle has two pipe plugs with square heads. The upper one is to check the fill level, the lower is the drain. The older case tractors had higher fill levels and some people fill the newer transaxle to a higher level. I filled mine to the plug level in the rear by the hitch. The other members here might have some more info/opinions.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:42 am
by FreddyFont
I did change the transaxle oil, filled it up to the check bolt but I did see some owners are filling it right up to the top. I followed what was recommended in the owners manual. I used 80w90 since I had some on hand. Planning to run it for a bit then changing it again in case there was left over of the old oil in there. Will do the same for the engine and hydraulic oil.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:24 am
by MattA
Some other things I recommend doing are:
1. Adjusting the steering gear shims to tighten the steering up.
2. Replacing the front axle pin with one sold by xetta on ebay. What a difference that makes. I wish I had spent the money sooner. My steering may have been looser due to having the snowcaster on the front.
3. Look up poor man's power steering. For $20-30 this makes the tractor much easier to steer especially with the snowcaster lifted up.

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:07 pm
by FreddyFont
Thanks for the info, ill look into it. Not sure I fully get your first item its a mix of not being super mechanically inclined and speaking French. Not that I would know what you're talking about anyway ;)

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:36 pm
by MattA
FreddyFont wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:07 pm Thanks for the info, ill look into it. Not sure I fully get your first item its a mix of not being super mechanically inclined and speaking French. Not that I would know what you're talking about anyway ;)
I put together some info:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1127

I told @Eugen that I would do this like a year ago :cheers:

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:32 am
by Eugen
MattA wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:36 pm
I told @Eugen that I would do this like a year ago :cheers:
Thank you! :cheers:

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:54 am
by FreddyFont
Thanks for the write up! Very well explained with the reference to the picture I feel I'd be able to tackle this. I had looked at that YouTube video for the axle pin. Will get the parts over the winter and might wait for spring to install it all. Its getting cold outside and I'm not done finishing the garage interior.... too many projects lol!

Re: Hello from Ottawa, Ontario - "new" 4016

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:51 am
by DavidBarkey
@FreddyFont
Quote : too many projects lol!
You will fit in just fine here . :giggle: