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Might help to give a little more context about this engine. Was there a problem at all before, did it work at all?
Yes , What Eugen said . Need more background.TLD89 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:23 am I decarb and set values, now motor turns over with spark and fuel and backfires. But does not run. Not sure that I turned the motor clockwise when setting values. Could that be the problem?
When setting values I set them at BTC should I've set them at 20 degrees?
The motor ran before with the choke partly closed. I think it had a carb issue, so I cleaned the carb and sealed the intake manifold seam.Eugen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:37 amMight help to give a little more context about this engine. Was there a problem at all before, did it work at all?
If you set the valve clearance properly I don't think it matters which way you turn the engine to get to TDC. For backfires timing is a usual culprit. But the fact that you touched the valves, that may be involved in it too.
TLD89 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:05 pmThe motor ran before with the choke partly closed. I think it had a carb issue, so I cleaned the carb and sealed the intake manifold seam.Eugen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:37 amMight help to give a little more context about this engine. Was there a problem at all before, did it work at all?
If you set the valve clearance properly I don't think it matters which way you turn the engine to get to TDC. For backfires timing is a usual culprit. But the fact that you touched the valves, that may be involved in it too.
The values did have carbon build up and where a few thousands off. I did take the timing gear cover off carefully cleaned the stator.
Lean can also cause back fires up the carb . Check your fuel supply to the carb for restrictions. Do a compresstion test to rule out valves issues as well .TLD89 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:05 pmThe motor ran before with the choke partly closed. I think it had a carb issue, so I cleaned the carb and sealed the intake manifold seam.Eugen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:37 amMight help to give a little more context about this engine. Was there a problem at all before, did it work at all?
If you set the valve clearance properly I don't think it matters which way you turn the engine to get to TDC. For backfires timing is a usual culprit. But the fact that you touched the valves, that may be involved in it too.
TLD89 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:23 am I decarb and set values, now motor turns over with spark and fuel and backfires. But does not run. Not sure that I turned the motor clockwise when setting values. Could that be the problem?
When setting values I set them at BTC should I've set them at 20 degrees?
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:08 am For it to be that far out . The trigger ring has to be on backwards or not on the key properly somehow .
TLD89 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:22 am Thanks Dave I will check the trigger ring this morning.
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:08 am For it to be that far out . The trigger ring has to be on backwards or not on the key properly somehow .
TLD89 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:05 amTLD89 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:22 am Thanks Dave I will check the trigger ring this morning.
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:08 am For it to be that far out . The trigger ring has to be on backwards or not on the key properly somehow .
You were right Dave. Thanks again for your help!
don't tell the 
, she will expect it all the time . 
Glad you got it sorted out . Which was it ? On back wards or not on the key properly ?Not keyed properly. This being in the wrong position cause the rectifier to fail?DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:27 am
I doubt that , More than likely age , short to ground or trying to charge a dead battery . Charging systems on these are maintainers not full on battery chargers .TLD89 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:49 amNot keyed properly. This being in the wrong position cause the rectifier to fail?DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:27 am
You can fry a rectifier instantly if the engine runs and the rectifier is not grounded.TLD89 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:49 amNot keyed properly. This being in the wrong position cause the rectifier to fail?DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:27 am