Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Stuff about your Case, Colt, or Ingersoll tractor
User avatar
thebuildist United States of America
Posts: 818
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:09 pm
Location: Atlanta, ga
Has thanked: 839 times
Been thanked: 3270 times

Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by thebuildist »

In re-inforcing the frame and front axle on my 4020PS I chose to move the steering tie rod to behind the front axle. That puts the relatively delicate tie rod in a more sheltered/safer location.

In order to do that I had to have bends in it to route it back around/behind the vertical path of the PTO belt.
Shotcut_00_31_05_960.png
PXL_20220825_145739887.MPzoom.png
It's been like that for most of a year at this point and I'm a little dissatisfied with it. On left hand turns in particular, it feels like I can see the left wheel shimmying inward/outward. I think that the 5/8" rod, once it's had the fairly dramatic bend in it, is too flexible. And the 1/2" ball/socket rod ends are too light duty for these front wheels once I have 1,000 lbs hanging from the loader.

I originally made the whole steering/axle alteration from drawings, trying to be sure I have clearance for tie-rod travel in all positions of the axle and all positions of the spindle. I can see now that I have more clearance than I really need. A thicker tie-rod will work fine, and it doesn't need such a drastic bend angle.

Lastly, now that I know the precise length of the tie rod, I no longer need practically any adjustment range. The length of the rod itself can be permanently set, and the heim joints on the end can be screwed a half turn tighter or looser to give a bit of adjustment.

So I'm replacing my tie rod with 3/4" rod. I'm using much heavier duty 3/4" heim joints, which can be greased as well. Those should give years of service.

I began by creating a telescoped center joint. One side has a journal turned down to 9/16", the other is drilled 9/16 where that journal can slide in. That let's me precisely adjust the length of the overall rod, as well as twisting that joint to ensure that the bends in both ends are perfectly aligned in the same plane.
PXL_20220825_125123362zoom.png
I chucked the first side in the lathe and threaded it, and then screwed on the first heim joint. Then I heated the rod up right next to the heim joint and bent it to an approximate angle. After confirming on the tractor that that angle can work, I bent the other just like it.
PXL_20220824_185056118.jpg
Then I had to turn some bushings to align the 3/4" hole in the heim swivel around the 1/2" bolt that will attach it to the steering arm.
PXL_20220825_125123362zoom2.png
Then I put the two pieces together and adjust them to get their length and alignment finalized, using the original tie rod as the template.
PXL_20220825_125123362.jpg
PXL_20220825_134411182.jpg
Lastly I welded it, sanded it smooth, and gave it a coat of paint.
PXL_20220825_145739887.MP.jpg
Much stouter now, no wiggle at all on the left front wheel.

Bob
"Never be afraid to try something new. How hard can it be?"
User avatar
Eugen Canada
Posts: 5161
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm
Location: Port Mcnicoll, Ontario
Has thanked: 12073 times
Been thanked: 16312 times
Contact:

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by Eugen »

Very nice Bob! I don't know how you can do these things so fast and such outstanding results.

ahm, you use your torch in the basement?! :O
Case 224, 444, 644, 680E
Kubota B26 :blush:
User avatar
DavidBarkey Canada
Posts: 3138
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 am
Location: Waverley On.
Has thanked: 17253 times
Been thanked: 10585 times

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by DavidBarkey »

As usual , nice work Bob . @Eugen torches are just like a :wife: . Treat them with respect and don't do something your not suppose to and you will live a long happy life . Stray from the path and you will get burned or see them blow up .
Dave
Mad Tractor Builder
User avatar
Eugen Canada
Posts: 5161
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm
Location: Port Mcnicoll, Ontario
Has thanked: 12073 times
Been thanked: 16312 times
Contact:

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by Eugen »

DavidBarkey wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:23 pm As usual , nice work Bob . @Eugen torches are just like a :wife: . Treat them with respect and don't do something your not suppose to and you will live a long happy life . Stray from the path and you will get burned or see them blow up .
:rofl: yep, I'm beginning to get see the picture :rofl:
Case 224, 444, 644, 680E
Kubota B26 :blush:
User avatar
thebuildist United States of America
Posts: 818
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:09 pm
Location: Atlanta, ga
Has thanked: 839 times
Been thanked: 3270 times

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by thebuildist »

Eugen wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:31 pm Very nice Bob! I don't know how you can do these things so fast and such outstanding results.

ahm, you use your torch in the basement?! :O
No. Never. That would be crazy. I use the torch in my SHOP.

And my shop is in the basement.

But it sounds better, right?

Bob
"Never be afraid to try something new. How hard can it be?"
User avatar
thebuildist United States of America
Posts: 818
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:09 pm
Location: Atlanta, ga
Has thanked: 839 times
Been thanked: 3270 times

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by thebuildist »

DavidBarkey wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:23 pm As usual , nice work Bob . @Eugen torches are just like a :wife: . Treat them with respect and don't do something your not suppose to and you will live a long happy life . Stray from the path and you will get burned or see them blow up .
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"Never be afraid to try something new. How hard can it be?"
User avatar
DavidBarkey Canada
Posts: 3138
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 am
Location: Waverley On.
Has thanked: 17253 times
Been thanked: 10585 times

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by DavidBarkey »

thebuildist wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:09 pm
Eugen wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:31 pm Very nice Bob! I don't know how you can do these things so fast and such outstanding results.

ahm, you use your torch in the basement?! :O
No. Never. That would be crazy. I use the torch in my SHOP.

And my shop is in the basement.

But it sounds better, right?

Bob
Shop is not in the basement , the shop is below the residence . :thumbsup:
Dave
Mad Tractor Builder
User avatar
Eugen Canada
Posts: 5161
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm
Location: Port Mcnicoll, Ontario
Has thanked: 12073 times
Been thanked: 16312 times
Contact:

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by Eugen »

Bob @thebuildist , now you really need to build the :j to dig an extension to the shop under the lawn or so :))
Case 224, 444, 644, 680E
Kubota B26 :blush:
JSinMO United States of America
Posts: 1568
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:16 pm
Location: Missouri
Has thanked: 12103 times
Been thanked: 6801 times

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by JSinMO »

Eugen wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:51 pm Bob @thebuildist , now you really need to build the :j to dig an extension to the shop under the lawn or so :))
With the skills Bob has I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he could whip up a working backhoe over a weekend!

@thebuildist Im jealous of your shop, someday i have to at least add a lathe around here.
User avatar
thebuildist United States of America
Posts: 818
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:09 pm
Location: Atlanta, ga
Has thanked: 839 times
Been thanked: 3270 times

Re: Rebuilding my custom tie rod

Post by thebuildist »

One of these days. I'm getting the fever.

Bob
"Never be afraid to try something new. How hard can it be?"
Post Reply