Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

I have found over the last few months that I have visited Ebay a few times a week. I have bought a number of items and also multiples and had great success, for instance buying a complete Kohler EZ PTO clutch for $50! I don't have a Kohler engine but I do run a couple of Onan - a 16 & 18 HP. I know from that deal I will have for sale a few parts but most are what I am looking for and I usually bid in the $50 plus range . When I see a "collection" that seems extreme (there is one there right now that exceeds $600 I have a tendency to leave it alone , at least for a while. It's obvious that no one is going to bid either but the seller is too dumb to understand that or does not care I then contact the seller and give a few suggestions, especially if there are parts that I can see that might want. The problem most of the time is that it is difficult to see parts as there are way too many, and also the overall price is way too much for most budgets so they sit there , week after week. So why my current post you might ask? If you have items for sale nether assume, list them individually and price accordingly. It seems that sellers though don't know that and re-post at the same dam thing over and over.. There is a name for that... want to guess.

ras101 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:37 pm I have found over the last few months that I have visited Ebay a few times a week. I have bought a number of items and also multiples and had great success, for instance buying a complete Kohler EZ PTO clutch for $50! I do0n't have a Kohler engine but I do run a couple of Onan - a 16 & 18 HP. I know from that deal I will have for sale a few parts but most are what I am looking for and I usually bid in the $50 plus range . When I see a "collection" that seems extreme (there is one there right now the exceeds $600 I have a tendency to leave it alone , at least for a while. It's obvious that no one is going to bid either. I then contact the seller and give a few suggestions, especially if there are parts that I can see that might want. The problem most of the time is that it is difficult to see parts as there are way too many, and also the overall price is way too much for most budgets so they sit there , week after week. So why my current post you might ask? If you have items for sale nether assume, list them individually and price accordingly. It seems that sellers though don't know that and re-post at the same dam thing over and over.. There is a name for that... want to guess.

$50 for the Kohler EZ? wish I saw that myself, as I need one. I'll start looking on eBay too.

Eugen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:59 pm

ras101 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:37 pm I have found over the last few months that I have visited Ebay a few times a week. I have bought a number of items and also multiples and had great success, for instance buying a complete Kohler EZ PTO clutch for $50! I do0n't have a Kohler engine but I do run a couple of Onan - a 16 & 18 HP. I know from that deal I will have for sale a few parts but most are what I am looking for and I usually bid in the $50 plus range . When I see a "collection" that seems extreme (there is one there right now the exceeds $600 I have a tendency to leave it alone , at least for a while. It's obvious that no one is going to bid either. I then contact the seller and give a few suggestions, especially if there are parts that I can see that might want. The problem most of the time is that it is difficult to see parts as there are way too many, and also the overall price is way too much for most budgets so they sit there , week after week. So why my current post you might ask? If you have items for sale nether assume, list them individually and price accordingly. It seems that sellers though don't know that and re-post at the same dam thing over and over.. There is a name for that... want to guess.

$50 for the Kohler EZ? wish I saw that myself, as I need one. I'll start looking on eBay too.

@Eugen
Do you need the whole assembly or just some parts ? I have a box of clutch parts , we may be able to put one together

Eugen, much as want to keep ebay to myself I have scored a number of great case/ingersoll purchases over the last 3 months. I have bought a number of EZ clutch parts over the months too at very good prices. The EZ parts are mainly from Kohler powers GTs and I run Onan and B&S. I have several Kohler specific parts that I will be selling on from those packages if you are interested. I follow also a friend (dtbeiter - "Dave") on Ebay that always posts great items at very reasonable rates too.

I will have for sale the Kohler shaft and clutch surface plate (not the pulley with the clutch) in used but very good condition too plus some other parts too. If you are interested shoot me a PM with what you are looking for.

Ray

Just to make you guys jealous here is my $50 dollar EZ clutch find:

So I noticed a couple of other posts on Ebay from a poster for EZ clutch parts, one for an Onan version and the other Kohler. They were both posted at a $225 start price!!! This from a GT that complete can be bought locally for less than $1000! If I even decide to sell my tribe it makes perfect sense to strip them bare and sell the parts - heck I could make a few thousand on the deal.

This has got to stop!

The only people that can make that happen is us... I am not adverse from paying a premium for the parts I need but to be reamed out ?

I buy new from dealers whenever possible ( and yeah those that support our hobby too) , why...because they buy from machine shops, and suppliers, that bring new parts into our hobby not enabling profiteers and reducing our available parts even more.
When I look to save money I buy from other enthusiasts because it enhances their/our hobby too and moves the parts available to others that need them. I have even given parts away that I don't need to friends and enthusiasts too that need them more than me.

Sorry for the rant guys..

All of my belt driven attachments have been converted to electric clutches. No need for any manual clutch parts here. I already have some in a box that I saved. Harry

You are absolutely right Ray, paying these high prices breeds more destruction of tractors that should not be parted out. It's easy to see how just a few key parts are worth more than what a working tractor is worth. There's been a few pretty descent tractors offered up locally to be parted out.

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:46 am @Eugen
Do you need the whole assembly or just some parts ? I have a box of clutch parts , we may be able to put one together

I'll talk to you next time I come by about the exact part I need. It's EZ

@ras101 thank you, I'll see if I can get this sorted out locally first.

So I just realized something else about $50 E Z Clutch it came with the control fork too (a $49 value supposedly from other posters!)
That's another thing that is happening with the used parts sales - segregation!
Things like:
Control valves (especially the holding valve type that are posted @ $390 minus the tubes and control arms that are shown and priced separately at another $50- 100!

There are many other examples too.

It's not just that you are in a bidding war for each item but that they belong and function together as a group.

I guess guys I am on a quest..

Responding only to the title of the thread:

Yes, married 31 years...

Great score on the EZ clutch assembly. I just paid $150 for a new clutch arm...

Ingersoll224 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:06 pm Responding only to the title of the thread:

Yes, married 31 years...

Good one!

Got a few years on you though!! going on 56 years now and just know it does not get any better... in fact expect at a couple more down turns along the way too...

@Ingersoll224

ask her hubby

Thanks for the support here guys...

Marriage is a roller coaster and over time takes a lot of effort and understanding too. Every time I buy a new GT or accessory for me is a challenge as my wife thinks that I am obsessed! I guess she is probably right but I will continue to fight that... Bliss right?

Ray

ras101 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:44 pm Thanks for the support here guys...

Marriage is a roller coaster and over time takes a lot of effort and understanding too. Every time I buy a new GT or accessory for me is a challenge as my wife thinks that I am obsessed! I guess she is probably right but I will continue to fight that... Bliss right?

Ray

What does she buy and for who and how often ? Very few don't have an obsession . Some are better at hiding or justifying it .

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:29 pm

ras101 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:44 pm Thanks for the support here guys...

Marriage is a roller coaster and over time takes a lot of effort and understanding too. Every time I buy a new GT or accessory for me is a challenge as my wife thinks that I am obsessed! I guess she is probably right but I will continue to fight that... Bliss right?

Ray

What does she buy and for who and how often ? Very few don't have an obsession . Some are better at hiding or justifying it .

Wish I could answer that one.. If I tried it would probably be nothing that I know about and pay for. We are very conservative.

My post was in jest. I am very lucky, my wife gives me lots of rope. She did say that I have to sell the 648 that I bought last summer when I am done with a couple projects. Objectively, that's fair as I do not really need it long term.

Ingersoll224 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:28 am My post was in jest. I am very lucky, my wife gives me lots of rope. She did say that I have to sell the 648 that I bought last summer when I am done with a couple projects. Objectively, that's fair as I do not really need it long term.

Me too, and I certainly read your post this way. The guys that have been longer on the forum here already know it. My wife has asked me, a few times, do I keep on buying junk? She has forever been encouraging me to buy "a good one". But she also told me "you'd go nuts if you didn't have something to tinker on" and she's right, it's almost therapeutic to fix and tinker on these old tractors. Fixing and using old Case garden tractors is a healthier hobby than most.

Eugen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:29 am

Ingersoll224 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:28 am My post was in jest. I am very lucky, my wife gives me lots of rope. She did say that I have to sell the 648 that I bought last summer when I am done with a couple projects. Objectively, that's fair as I do not really need it long term.

Me too, and I certainly read your post this way. The guys that have been longer on the forum here already know it. My wife has asked me, a few times, do I keep on buying junk? She has forever been encouraging me to buy "a good one". But she also told me "you'd go nuts if you didn't have something to tinker on" and she's right, it's almost therapeutic to fix and tinker on these old tractors. Fixing and using old Case garden tractors is a healthier hobby than most.

I understand completely Eugen. I don’t follow sports. I don’t gamble or play cards. I don’t go bowling anymore. I don’t hang out in bars. I like to be in my shop and work on projects that give me personal satisfaction. Harry

The high prices started on Facebook Marketplace. A select few sellers often parted out tractors and priced them very high. Often the parts were in decent shape, which was good, but not enough to warrant the price. This led to everyone with ratted-out accessory's to start posting their stuff at that same price.

But, there is always one constant. There is a vast number of things that are listed for sale and are all seen because they do not sell. The sales and prices you do not see are the ones that are priced where the buyer and the seller are happy. These listings most of us will never see because they do not last long.

On Facebook, the current ask for an HH34 hitch is $850.