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Easy read manuals, etc...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:02 pm
by ras101
So lets do a poll here guys. If you have not looked at the E-Z Clutch(PTO) manual I posted you might want to now. Am I the only one that needs help with my GT's? Having "how to" guides that identify (I like color) the items I am working on clutch, engine, wheels, whatever and giving detailed information on how to fix, change, update, etc. is what I am looking for. If you are like me there are too other distractions in our world right now. I know I need to change the oil, my PTO does not work and what do I need to do, you know the rest, right...

How do we, as a team fix that?

What do you guys need?

For me I want "Fix it guides"

What about you?

Re: Easy read manuals, etc...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:22 pm
by Eugen
ras101 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:02 pm
For me I want "Fix it guides"

What about you?
Sure it would be nice but it takes a special talent to make how to docs. As you have seen from my fixing threads, I'm not exactly good at it. People barely post on this site a few comments, I honestly have a hard time seeing anyone writing guides. 🤷‍♂️

Re: Easy read manuals, etc...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:06 pm
by Spike188
One of my first tractor overhauls was an 1850 Oliver with a 354 ci Perkins engine. The setting was very much like @Eugen is doing on his 680E, except our tools for measurement was news print which was considered to be 0.020" at that time, around 1970, plastigage, and feeler gauges. The shop manual was either an I&T or Hynes.
That would have made me 15 or 16 at that time. Splitting the tractor was not a big issue, just take all of the bolts, lines, electrical loose and anything that looked to be in the way. Eventually it separated exposing the flywheel and clutch.

I am not sure why removing the flywheel was an issue because by that time 6 cylinder three speed Chevy pickup clutches were old hat. Burning cat eyes and laying rubber took its toll on first , reverse, and clutches. At 14 we knew the drill, Dad would say you were driving it when it broke, you fix it.
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Back to the Oliver flywheel. The page in the manual for disassembly said ....."it is obvious."

That manual breaks with the 6 Sigma philosophy that if it is in writing anyone can be taught to do the job. With 67 years experience, I will vouch that this idea gets more wannabes in trouble because translation of the written word to skill sets is not a given.



I have written food processing manuals and step by step verification forms in meat canning plants. The biggest learning curve in writing the forms was how to build it in a way that the person filling out the form did not make side notes on how to fill it out. There would always be an outlier that would need special help with the form.

:creeper: PS. I really am able to get under my 400 series Case tractors on a creeper with a adjustable wrench that big. That is my rant for the day.

Re: Easy read manuals, etc...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:41 pm
by Eugen
@Spike188 , in my humble opinion this is a great ramble which I have enjoyed a lot! :thumbsup:

Re: Easy read manuals, etc...

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:39 am
by Harry
When ever I need to fix or repair something Case related, I just find the manual and print the pages I need. The last time I needed to adjust the EZ clutch I just read the manual and it was simple. I usually store the printed pages in a filing cabinet sorted by tractor, for reference at a later date. It works for me. :peace: Harry