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Propane 222

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:19 am
by bgosh
Found on Ebay Timj is this yours
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Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:10 pm
by Timj
Nope, not mine but not far from me. :hm:
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Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:29 pm
by Eugen
Grill some sausages while mowing! Sure, why not?! 😃

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:04 pm
by MattA
I'm not sure why you would want to run your tractor on propane.

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:55 pm
by Eugen
MattA wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:04 pm I'm not sure why you would want to run your tractor on propane.
Cheaper? Burns cleaner?

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:23 pm
by thebuildist
In the southern US in particular, propane ("LP") was very popular for farm equipment a few decades ago. The real story was that, at least along the gulf coast, propane was less expensive than gasoline.

These days I'm not at all certain that propane is cheaper "per therm".

But if it were, that would make sense to run it.

It's fairly low tech. You just put a regulator on the tank and output a certain volume of that gas into the venturi throat of a regular carburetor. The gas is already in a form that the engine can use. It's just not quite as energy-dense as the vaporized gasoline/air mixture that a carb normally puts out.

Bob

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:20 am
by propane1
Just my 2 cents worth. Burns clean. Oil never looks dirty. But still would be worn out. Hard to start in cold weather. Less hp. Burns more fuel than gasoline. So may not be cheaper. No top end lubrication. Hard on valves.

The old farm tractors that burned propane had higher compression engines. To help make more power.

A short propane engine ramble, on Sunday Morning too. Just my 2 cents worth.

I know of a Cub Cadet 1100 garden tractor in my area that runs on propane. It was used to cut grass at the Superior propane properties. And of course used as a promotion to sell people on using propane powered vehicles.

Noel :D

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:27 am
by Timj
In the '70s our school district ran propane in the busses. I don't remember many farmers running it in their tractors but friends in Nebraska did. It was so cheap back then. The only major place I see it used for engine fuel around here is farmers. They are burning it in their stationary engines that drive the pumps on their irrigation wells in areas where they can't get electric. So it must be cheaper than diesel.

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:44 am
by propane1
Timj wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:27 am In the '70s our school district ran propane in the busses. I don't remember many farmers running it in their tractors but friends in Nebraska did. It was so cheap back then. The only major place I see it used for engine fuel around here is farmers. They are burning it in their stationary engines that drive the pumps on their irrigation wells in areas where they can't get electric. So it must be cheaper than diesel.
Do they have large tanks Tim. They could get long run times if they did that. Easier than transporting gasoline.

Noel

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:46 am
by Timj
propane1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:44 am
Timj wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:27 am In the '70s our school district ran propane in the busses. I don't remember many farmers running it in their tractors but friends in Nebraska did. It was so cheap back then. The only major place I see it used for engine fuel around here is farmers. They are burning it in their stationary engines that drive the pumps on their irrigation wells in areas where they can't get electric. So it must be cheaper than diesel.
Do they have large tanks Tim. They could get long run times if they did that. Easier than transporting gasoline.

Noel
I usually see a 1000 gallon or two, sometimes a larger tank. They generally run at least 12 hours or more to do a field.
We've been so dry this summer, they're getting a work out.

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:17 am
by Eugen
I owned a crown vic on propane for a few years. At the time propane was around 50c a litre and gas was 80c. It was a little cheaper overall but not by much. I would not bother with thats now. Wouldn't mind a diesel engine car, but you pay a premium for that here. Why are cars with diesel engines so rare here and in Europe there are so widespread?

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:25 pm
by JSinMO
propane1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:20 am
The old farm tractors that burned propane had higher compression engines. To help make more power.
I had forgotten about that. You see an old tractor around here every now and again set up to run propane. The antique tractor pullers used to look for them to snag the high compression heads to put on there pulling tractors.

I had a Ford F100 that was set up to run propane when I got it. As per my usual operating procedure I pulled it out of a field where it had sat several years. The truck was set up with dual fuel tanks from the factory and the farmers I bought it from add two LP tanks in the bed with a valve and regulator under the hood by the carburetor.
I didn’t keep the propane set up. It was all shot and rusted up. That old truck ran great wish I still had it!

Re: Propane 222

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:04 am
by propane1
JSinMO wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:25 pm
propane1 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:20 am
The old farm tractors that burned propane had higher compression engines. To help make more power.
I had forgotten about that. You see an old tractor around here every now and again set up to run propane. The antique tractor pullers used to look for them to snag the high compression heads to put on there pulling tractors.
Yep.

Noel