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442 PK wiring
Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:08 pm
by ckainMich
I'm sure this question has been asked 100 times. I tried searching past posts, but didn't get far. I have several 'official' wiring diagrams but I have a problem with following wires when they run several inside a tube and are numbered. I need a hand drawn diagram with colors listed, of the switch and regulator. Anyone ever post such a thing ?? I cannot see where the 12v comes from, to get to the switch. MY solenoid not energizing by key. And I have temporarily put a ground jumper on it. ( neutral grounding is defective) Thank you.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 11:43 pm
by JSinMO
I’m sorry I don’t have a diagram to share, but was thinking, would a continuity light help trace the wiring?
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 12:10 am
by Eugen
I don't know how much you could trust a wiring diagram with coloured wires. The wires in your tractor might have been changed. Like Jeff said, it wouldn't be that hard to figure out where each wire goes with a continuity meter.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 9:39 pm
by Spike188
Our 4018 started blowing the 30 amp fuse last night. This started me thinking about how to tackle your problem and maybe yours. Instead of a wiring diagram like our manuals have, a ladder diagram might be easier for a novice to follow. @ckainMich What is the serial number on your tractor?
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:35 pm
by Eugen
Good point. With the right diagram we can figure out a way to chase each wire for its purpose.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 7:12 am
by Spike188
I took a look at the 442 manual. It has been 20 years since doing ladders. Ladder diagrams are a weekly encouter in my line of work.. This morning memories of an old software program came back. A copy of it should still be around that would simplify and make the ladder diagram easier to layout.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 9:02 am
by Eugen
I had to look up the term ladder diagram, as I didn't know exactly what it was. Thanks for overloading my brain
@Spike188 !
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 2:29 pm
by ckainMich
Spike, I can do well with a 'real' schematic or ladder dia. I was trained in electronics in USAF. Many years ago.lol
My serial on the 442 is 9332595.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 8:59 pm
by Spike188
The day job is hitting me hard right now. Don't give up on me.
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Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 9:32 pm
by Eugen
Trying to help. Look at this diagram, do to have these components? I'll try to find a better one.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 10:19 pm
by Spike188
https://manuals.ccigt.com/ServiceManual ... marked.pdf
The line drawings are on page 5 and 6 of this manual. The neutral position switches failures are a known issues. It would cause the issue that
@ckainMich is having.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 10:45 pm
by Eugen
@Spike188 you are so much better than me at finding the right manual! I didn't even know we had color coded diagrams. Thank you, I'll keep this one bookmarked!
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 11:52 pm
by Spike188
The Pk tractor replacment decals are in a parts manual for 1969-1970. I found the electrical drawings I the 2nd technical manual section. @Eugen I realy need to get at making the manuals list that I committed to.
To a Mouse, Robert Burns
But mouse, you are not alone,
In proving foresight may be vain;
The best laid schemes of mice and men go often askew
And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
For promised joy!
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:53 am
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 10:45 pm
@Spike188 you are so much better than me at finding the right manual! I didn't even know we had color coded diagrams. Thank you, I'll keep this one bookmarked!
I have tried book marking pages before but all those stickies make it hard to see the screen . And when I open the lap top the pages are gone . All I am left with is a screen covered in stickies .
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 8:02 am
by Eugen
What stickies?@DavidBarkey
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 8:12 am
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 8:02 am
What stickies?@DavidBarkey
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 10:22 am
by Eugen
you had me there for a sec
Back to regular programming.
@ckainMich the manual
@Spike188 pointed to above has the color coded schematic, that should help you along. Let us know how the repair is going.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 1:38 pm
by ckainMich
my issue is, no closeup of switch or regulator. The diagrams are not clear.
Re: 442 PK wiring
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 2:09 pm
by Eugen
ckainMich wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 1:38 pm
my issue is, no closeup of switch or regulator. The diagrams are not clear.
I have not yet seen one clearer than this one. Is it ok?
Switch:
S to wire 4
B to wire 1
L to wire 6
I to wire 7
Regulator:
F to 5
B to 2
L to 1
G to 8