Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Stuff about your Case, Colt, or Ingersoll tractor
User avatar
Eugen Canada
Posts: 5155
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm
Location: Port Mcnicoll, Ontario
Has thanked: 12021 times
Been thanked: 16276 times
Contact:

Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by Eugen »

There was a small leak which seemed to get worse over time so I had a look. Found it. Someone in the past tried to fix it with some sort of green melted plastic, and it held for a while until it didn't. Unfortunately all my parts tractors have the other style radiator, with inlet on the other side as the outlet.

BE9950AD-17DD-480B-B28E-6E68FD8429C3.jpeg
CA00DBE7-6F47-4010-9491-43027F817A9D.jpeg

Tried fixing it with aluminum stick and the torch.

8C447898-EB2F-4E75-B784-FD4D47E96211.jpeg

Didn't hold. I'm thinking maybe JB Weld. What do you guys think?
Case 224, 444, 644, 680E
Kubota B26 :blush:
User avatar
propane1 Canada
Posts: 2439
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:32 am
Location: PEI, Canada
Has thanked: 5779 times
Been thanked: 8738 times

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by propane1 »

I would think it would have to be cleaned very good to get some thing to stick. Maybe you did that though. Was thinking those aluminum rods used with a torch at the first when I started reading the post. J B weld might work. :106:
I’ll keep thinking. :hm:

Noel
User avatar
DavidBarkey Canada
Posts: 3128
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 am
Location: Waverley On.
Has thanked: 17188 times
Been thanked: 10532 times

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by DavidBarkey »

Eugen wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:08 pm There was a small leak which seemed to get worse over time so I had a look. Found it. Someone in the past tried to fix it with some sort of green melted plastic, and it held for a while until it didn't. Unfortunately all my parts tractors have the other style radiator, with inlet on the other side as the outlet.


BE9950AD-17DD-480B-B28E-6E68FD8429C3.jpeg

CA00DBE7-6F47-4010-9491-43027F817A9D.jpeg


Tried fixing it with aluminum stick and the torch.


8C447898-EB2F-4E75-B784-FD4D47E96211.jpeg


Didn't hold. I'm thinking maybe JB Weld. What do you guys think?
I will look and see if I have one .
Once the aluminum get contaminated with oil , it is very hard to get it clean enough to get a proper seal .
What tractor did it come off ?
Dave
Mad Tractor Builder
User avatar
DavidBarkey Canada
Posts: 3128
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 am
Location: Waverley On.
Has thanked: 17188 times
Been thanked: 10532 times

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by DavidBarkey »

I have seen this damage before . So what I do now is to put a sleeve of clear tubing (Fuel hose) over the screw so that it comes loose it will not do this kind of damage to the cooler .
Dave
Mad Tractor Builder
User avatar
Eugen Canada
Posts: 5155
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm
Location: Port Mcnicoll, Ontario
Has thanked: 12021 times
Been thanked: 16276 times
Contact:

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by Eugen »

Well, tried my best to clean it, even filed the area some. This is from the 444 on snow duty. There's no real pressure there. Maybe a piece of hose with ring clamps will do. I'll see what I come up with tonight.
Case 224, 444, 644, 680E
Kubota B26 :blush:
User avatar
RoamingGnome Canada
Posts: 634
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:54 am
Location: Hamilton, ON
Has thanked: 8948 times
Been thanked: 3232 times

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by RoamingGnome »

An "old school" rad shop should be able to flush out that cooler and braze up the leak...

Out of curiosity were you using a brazing rod like this https://www.princessauto.com/en/7-pc-1- ... 0008676884 -

There shouldn't be much pressure going through the cooler - If you had it really cleaned up JB weld might do the trick...
'68 Case 195, '84 Case 446, '88 Ingersoll 222 - and 1965 Case 530ck (fullsize backhoe)
User avatar
Eugen Canada
Posts: 5155
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm
Location: Port Mcnicoll, Ontario
Has thanked: 12021 times
Been thanked: 16276 times
Contact:

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by Eugen »

Yes, I used this brazing rod
573FD608-5EFD-4061-BCCA-46CAED718308.jpeg


Either it wasn't clean enough or I didn't heat it up enough out of fear I melt the spot. :|
Case 224, 444, 644, 680E
Kubota B26 :blush:
User avatar
RoamingGnome Canada
Posts: 634
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:54 am
Location: Hamilton, ON
Has thanked: 8948 times
Been thanked: 3232 times

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by RoamingGnome »

That rod should do the job, - one of the issues I found with welding / brazing something like an oil cooler or hyd tank was residual oil could creep into the joint when the base metal heats up and prevent a 100% seal with no pinholes.

You are on track for a short term fix - rubber hose, slit lengthwise and held on with lots of hose clamps (skinny ones if you have them) and then afterwards some sandpaper, lots of brake clean and give the JB weld a try - I've used it to patch more than a few rotted oil pans and fuel tanks.
'68 Case 195, '84 Case 446, '88 Ingersoll 222 - and 1965 Case 530ck (fullsize backhoe)
User avatar
Eugen Canada
Posts: 5155
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:52 pm
Location: Port Mcnicoll, Ontario
Has thanked: 12021 times
Been thanked: 16276 times
Contact:

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by Eugen »

RoamingGnome wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:44 pm That rod should do the job, - one of the issues I found with welding / brazing something like an oil cooler or hyd tank was residual oil could creep into the joint when the base metal heats up and prevent a 100% seal with no pinholes.

You are on track for a short term fix - rubber hose, slit lengthwise and held on with lots of hose clamps (skinny ones if you have them) and then afterwards some sandpaper, lots of brake clean and give the JB weld a try - I've used it to patch more than a few rotted oil pans and fuel tanks.
I cleaned it as well as I could with brake cleaner but didn't flush the oil from inside. I was afraid to heat it up too much because it's pretty thin. I once did that on a different job and the spot I was trying to fix melted so fast.

Cleaned it again and rubbed some sandpaper on a larger area, then applied jb weld. Will test tomorrow.

Thanks guys! And @DavidBarkey , I applied your method with a piece of hose around around the bolt, great idea!
Case 224, 444, 644, 680E
Kubota B26 :blush:
User avatar
propane1 Canada
Posts: 2439
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:32 am
Location: PEI, Canada
Has thanked: 5779 times
Been thanked: 8738 times

Re: Hole in hydraulic oil cooler

Post by propane1 »

Hope you got it Eugen. Lucky me I have a tractor buddie only 5 minutes away from me who does that aluminum welding work. He’s fixed a few things for me over the years.

Noel
Post Reply