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Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:45 am
by DavidBarkey
@Eugen That rim look like it has had calcium in it without a tube . If that is the case the rest of the rim will be very baddly corroded as well I would look in to another rim . How is the other one ?
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https://www.agwheelexpress.com/store/c1 ... off-white/
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https://specialtytire.ca/product/ag-whe ... -6-6-on-6/

Some JD tractors/ impliments used that size on the front you may find used at on of the salvage yards .

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:01 am
by Timj
:109: if it was just the spot by the valve stem it may be worth the time. :hm: but I'm thinking there's a lot more thin spots. :112: and if was caused by chloride it's going to be hard to get to good metal. :124:
I tried to fix a leaking weld on my brother in laws septic truck, what looked like just burn a rod or two, turned into a couple hour project. Nothing but layers of rust. :45:

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:39 am
by propane1
New rim would be a good idea, depending on the inside condition of the rim and if weak in other places. Wether a tube would work with out getting cut from the rust on the inside. Me, I’d fix that spot, and drill a new hole in better metal for the stem.
If you go a new rim Eugen. Make sure the off set is the same as what you have now.

Just a quick ramble on what I would do. Everybody has their own good ideas. You’ll have to do the picking the method you want to do Eugen.


Noel

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:27 am
by Eugen
Indeed, there's a tube inside now, and calcium chloride. I do have a set of 16" rims with AG tires installed on the other 644, so I could use those on this one and sell the working 644 with its original rims which are like new. But it would feel good to save these rims somehow, I hate throwing things out. :headbash: I'll try to see how deep the rust goes everywhere else and if it's too deep and in too many places... that's that. :smash:

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:26 pm
by JSinMO
Those rims do look pretty rough. If you find they’re too far gone to reuse they might still serve a purpose. You might find enough good metal in spots to be able to cut patch panels out to use on other rims down the road.

Just a thought to maybe give you a reason to hang on the them!

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:46 pm
by Spike188
@eugen I should have a decent set of 15" rims for your 644. Also the grill support. I will do some digging tomorrow mid-day.

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:10 am
by Eugen
Spike188 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:46 pm @eugen I should have a decent set of 15" rims for your 644. Also the grill support. I will do some digging tomorrow mid-day.
Eugene, that is very kind of you! I feel bad dipping in your treasure stash though. :worship:

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:31 am
by Eugen
JSinMO wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:26 pm Those rims do look pretty rough. If you find they’re too far gone to reuse they might still serve a purpose. You might find enough good metal in spots to be able to cut patch panels out to use on other rims down the road.

Just a thought to maybe give you a reason to hang on the them!
I should be more careful how I use words. Wouldn't literally throw the rims out, just give up on them to be used as rims, and keep them around for who knows what.

@DavidBarkey thanks for the link to new rims, I guess if I cannot find any alternative I might at some point just get a pair of new rims.

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:51 am
by propane1
I didn’t think you’d throw the rim out. And I figured you would thy and fix it Eugen. Thats the way I am. I’ve got more stuff around here than you could shake a stick at. Keep every thing. My son is like that too. He also keeps wood cut offs and stuff from remodelling. Comes In handy.


Noel

Re: Case 644 loader repairs

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:30 pm
by Eugen
propane1 wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:51 am I didn’t think you’d throw the rim out. And I figured you would thy and fix it Eugen. Thats the way I am. I’ve got more stuff around here than you could shake a stick at. Keep every thing. My son is like that too. He also keeps wood cut offs and stuff from remodelling. Comes In handy.


Noel
You're exactly right Noel. A lot of what I do I think of it as practicing. I have no experience brazing with the oxy-acetylene torch. This could be good practice, trying to fix these rims. But @Timj has a really good point, the rust might be too deep in too many places. Won't have time to do a real deep clean up now, so I do want to use different wheels for the time being.

Been thinking about prioritizing what still needs to be done to this tractor to call it tentatively finished so I can sell the other 644. On the todo list.

Must do asap:
* fix/redo bucket pin bushings
* fix hood
* mount the bucket
* mount rear wheel fenders
* fabricate bracket to hold the exhaust pipe routed under the rear axle
* replace rust damaged rear wheel
Should do at later time:
* paint various parts
* get tube for passenger front tire losing air over time
* fabricate 3pth
* some other stuff I can't think of now

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