Case 644 loader repairs

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Re: Case 644 loader repairs

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Small step forward. This tractor had the attachment lift cylinder on the frame, but I had no intention of using it. Until I could come up with a 3pth solution I wanted the cylinder off the tractor, and was looking for a way to bypass the auxiliary circuit. The best way I could think of doing it was to loop one on the aux cylinder hoses back to the TCV port. The problem was finding a fitting for that. There are two hoses that go to the aux cylinder. Both hoses are 5/16 female on the TCV side, because the TCV has JIC female fittings. On the side of the cylinder one hose is 1/4 NPT male, and the other is 5/16 JIC male. Both aux ports on the TCV are 5/16 ORB female (#5). The original fittings there are ORB-5 male to 5/16 JIC male. There was nowhere to find a female to female 5/16 union fitting, to loop the hose from aux that had 5/16 JIC male on the cylinder side. So I was looking for a fitting that was 1/4 NPT female to ORB. But I actually didn't know it was ORB size 5! Sometimes I just rely on my memory, which is often a bad idea.

My job takes me to Toronto sometimes, a two hour drive, and when that happens, I stop by Princess Auto (PA), the store I usually get hydraulic fittings from, midway to Toronto. The first time I stopped there I looked at the available fittings, and according to my "eye" micrometer got the #6 orb - 1/4 NPTF. That night when I tried to install the fitting, noticed it was too big. Next time I went to PA, 2 weeks later, I got the next size down, which turned out to be #4 orb. :furious: yes, because that particular store is not well stocked, and they were missing #5 orb, not even having a spot on the shelf for it. In retrospect I should've measured the thread diameter, but sometimes I trust the store and my memory too much. I expected the store to have all standard sizes, therefore, if the fitting I got was just a bit too large, getting the next smaller one would be the right one. In this case I got orb #4 which I found that night, was too small.

At that point I thought that ORB-5 is probably an odd size and I won't be able to find it easily. @FUTZ offered to help me with that, as he has access to professional stock of hydraulic parts.

Turns out that I had to go to another city for issues having to do with my sister's estate, and passed by another Princess Auto. On impulse I went in just for the heck of it. Well, that particular location had a much larger hydraulic section and was so much better stocked than the one I usually go to, I was impressed. Plus they got the right fitting for me.
Original fitting, 5/16 JICM to ORB-5, and wrong replacement fitting, 1/4 NPTF to ORB-4. Later I got the right replacement fitting, 1/4 NPTF to ORB-5.
Original fitting, 5/16 JICM to ORB-5, and wrong replacement fitting, 1/4 NPTF to ORB-4. Later I got the right replacement fitting, 1/4 NPTF to ORB-5.
And so now the aux circuit is nicely looped back to the TCV and have no dangling cylinder in the middle section of the TCV. My 644 has changed it's name from Bill to Sue. Just like a boy named Sue, I suppose. :rofl:

I made an effort to provide a long long ramble. :lol:
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You did good Eugen on the ramble. :worship:

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propane1 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:06 pm You did good Eugen on the ramble. :worship:

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Eugen wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:14 pm
propane1 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:06 pm You did good Eugen on the ramble. :worship:

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Nicely Rambled @Eugen :cheers:
In my little corner of Southern Ontario we are lucky to have several Princess Awfuls to choose from - Hamilton is the closest of course, but the selection and organization of the store leaves a lot to be desired :headbash: - StCatharines, Kitchener and Brantford all have newer, bigger stores with much more inventory - I'm almost always checking store inventory online before I go to buy anything now...
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:109:
Transgender tractor . :O
:bla: whats the world coming to .
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DavidBarkey wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:40 pm :109:
Transgender tractor . :O
:bla: whats the world coming to .
:rofl:
Maybe just eunuch, I don't know these things. I had to remove his protruding element, what can I say, it was no longer used. :hm: When I install the 3pth, what will it be then? :hm:
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Eugen wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:43 pm
DavidBarkey wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:40 pm :109:
Transgender tractor . :O
:bla: whats the world coming to .
:rofl:
Maybe just eunuch, I don't know these things. I had to remove his protruding element, what can I say, it was no longer used. :hm: When I install the 3pth, what will it be then? :hm:
Don't be talking like that around my :wife: . I don't want my protruding element removed because I don't use it anymore . I am kinda attached to it , or it to me . :hm: Could become a hermaphrodite tractor maybe . :109: :rofl:
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Re: Case 644 loader repairs

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Eugen wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:43 pm
DavidBarkey wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:40 pm :109:
Transgender tractor . :O
:bla: whats the world coming to .
:rofl:
Maybe just eunuch, I don't know these things. I had to remove his protruding element, what can I say, it was no longer used. :hm: When I install the 3pth, what will it be then? :hm:
With the 3 pt on tell Sue "That makes your butt look big" :O see if she complains ;) JUST don't say it when the :wife: is near or she might go get the rolling pin :))

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Re: Case 644 loader repairs

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So I want to name it Sue because of the Johnny Cash song, but it'll get me in a lot of trouble if I tell my wife "going out to spend some time with Sue" :hitsfan: :wife:

I'll put a 3pth on it and call it tail then I'll give it a pet name. :phew:
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