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Hi guys, some of you know a lot about chainsaws. This Stihl MS 460 came up for sale nearby and I'm thinking of getting it. What thinks you?

All chainsaws are a big pain as far as Im concerned. But if you gots trees or burn wood. Ya gotta have one or many. Do the research on them Eugen, your good at that.

Noel.

Shoulda said, no opinion

@Propane57

I'm not real up on the Stihl saws, all I know is that is a big saw.

I was hoping you guys say "go for it, don't miss it, it's amazing, tell your we said so!!!"

yeah, I checked out opinions on the net, seems like a good saw, it'll do for me cutting twigs around the yard and such until I can find a bigger one

I think it's more than big enough. It would probably be good if you were going to use it for milling your logs.
My brother in law and nephew work for an equipment dealer that is a Stihl dealer. When I was talking to them about buying a new saw, their suggestions/recommendations on what saw for me turned into quite a discussion between a MS251 and a MS362. The youngster went for the bigger saw.

Really, I’m not very knowledgeable on saws. And I don’t like 2 stroke stuff, saws or what ever. I’m sure if you took 3 or 4 saws from 4 different brand name saws, they would all cut wood and work about the same.
Then when your done with them, they leak bar oil every where. Just my opinion.
I just don’t have good luck with saws.

Noel

@Eugen the 460 is a great pro saw. About as small as you'd want to go for milling but would work. A nice size felling saw and would be a beast for firewood duty.

What's the asking price? Did you pick it up?

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Propane57 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:14 pm Really, I’m not very knowledgeable on saws. And I don’t like 2 stroke stuff, saws or what ever. I’m sure if you took 3 or 4 saws from 4 different brand name saws, they would all cut wood and work about the same.
Then when your done with them, they leak bar oil every where. Just my opinion.
I just don’t have good luck with saws.

Noel

With all that wood that came your way, can you afford not to like 2 stroke stuff? I"m with you on the leaky bar and chain oil, my homelites both make a mess wherever I put them.

Chad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:12 pm @Eugen the 460 is a great pro saw. About as small as you'd want to go for milling but would work. A nice size felling saw and would be a beast for firewood duty.

What's the asking price? Did you pick it up?

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This morning I sent you a PM @Chad when I was on my way to see it, hoping you say something like this. I did some quick searches and opinions were favourable to this model. So I went to look at it, and it had some minor cosmetic issues, but it started right away and it seems to work well. He was asking 550 which, for this size saw and working it seemed to me like an acceptable price, so i got it, with milling in mind (that's right @Timj !). I have 4 more ash trees to bring down, but the Homelite would have handled them too. As I said, I tried a long cut on one of the ash logs with the Homelite and about 75% of the way my right forearm was just about to fall off. Either my arm is too weak for that sort of thing, or the vibrations were excessive, or both. The really funny thing is that I got the idea of making boards out of these logs cutting them without an Alaskan mill from a Russian guy on youtube, who was freehand cutting boards out of massive logs with his Stihl saw as it appeared with ease. Definitely didn't work for Eugen+Homelite XL-12.

Sorry @Eugen! Just saw your msg now. That's great, and a fair price for sure. Yes, it will be a huge improvement over your Homelite. Faster, safer, less vibes, etc. Also has adjustable oiler which is great for milling. What size bar is on it?

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No worries @Chad . The PO said 24" but I'm not sure, it could be 25? Haven't had time yesterday to check OT out properly.

Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:32 pm

Propane57 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:14 pm Really, I’m not very knowledgeable on saws. And I don’t like 2 stroke stuff, saws or what ever. I’m sure if you took 3 or 4 saws from 4 different brand name saws, they would all cut wood and work about the same.
Then when your done with them, they leak bar oil every where. Just my opinion.
I just don’t have good luck with saws.

Noel

With all that wood that came your way, can you afford not to like 2 stroke stuff? I"m with you on the leaky bar and chain oil, my homelites both make a mess wherever I put them.

Your right Eugen. With all that wood that we got, I have to use chainsaws, but I don’t have to like them.
I do have the 1951 TEA20 Ferguson tractor and we have a saw bench. I try to use that as much as I can. I also have a son, so he uses the chainsaws too.
We do have an husqvarna xp288, I think that’s what it is, it a monster of a saw 6 hp, but heavy to use. And of course won’t work right. Needs a carb I think. Wont idle. Like most saws. You stop to get change positions and it quits. But when it does work, she’ll start at the top of the pile and doesn’t take to long to get to the bottom.

Mid week ramble.

Noel

I hear you Noel! That's kinda the story with everything that I have that I can put oil and gas in. My car now whines (literally) when I turn the steering wheel. I think it tries to tell me the steering pump is in pain and needs a transplant.

Got this saw and didn't even bargain. To me the value of the saw was fitting the asking price. Called yesterday the only Stihl dealer that's not really far. He says he has both ripping and regular chain for me, so I go to the store yesterday. Turns out they don't have those chains ready to be sold, they make them. "Come back in a couple of days" he says. Ok, thanks buddy, for a useless visit to the store

He also said the bar is toast and I definitely need to buy a new one. He was also very dismissive on the border of unfriendly. I'm thinking it's the owner. Oh well so it goes

Sorry to hear that Eugen. Unfortunately I think we've all experienced similar from various dealers over the years. I'm grateful that there's a few around me, but I only use 1 (which also happens to be a CaseIH dealer so I'm able to get some parts for my 444 fleet)

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Chad wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:47 pm Sorry to hear that Eugen. Unfortunately I think we've all experienced similar from various dealers over the years. I'm grateful that there's a few around me, but I only use 1 (which also happens to be a CaseIH dealer so I'm able to get some parts for my 444 fleet)

it's all good, really, I know we don't live in a perfect world and everyone can have a bad day. Even if that's how they deal with customers on a regular basis I'm ok, will try to minimize dealing with them if it continues to be slightly unpleasant.

@Chad lucky you have a CaseIH dealer nearby. None around here.

@Eugen Who was it that gave you the bad service . FYI I can get chain saw parts too . I have to order it in , but can get you a better deal on most stuff I can get . When you can , come look though the catalogue .

Dave

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:28 pm @Eugen Who was it that gave you the bad service . FYI I can get chain saw parts too . I have to order it in , but can get you a better deal on most stuff I can get . When you can , come look though the catalogue .

Dave

I don't want to go as far as to call it bad service. The guy was tall, somewhere between 40 and 50 years old, shaved head with a small patch unshaved at the back. So he told me on Thursday to come back get the two chains on Monday (today), on account that they'll make them from bulk chain. Having had the experience of going there once for nothing, I called today. Guess what? "They'll be ready Wednesday." So I said "I'll call again Wednesday." He says "just come, they'll be ready." I'LL CALL FIRST!

I had already committed to them making the chains, so I would like to stick to my word. I'd get it ordered from you Dave, but can you get actual Stihl OEM stuff?

Eugen wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:44 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:28 pm @Eugen Who was it that gave you the bad service . FYI I can get chain saw parts too . I have to order it in , but can get you a better deal on most stuff I can get . When you can , come look though the catalogue .

Dave

I don't want to go as far as to call it bad service. The guy was tall, somewhere between 40 and 50 years old, shaved head with a small patch unshaved at the back. So he told me on Thursday to come back get the two chains on Monday (today), on account that they'll make them from bulk chain. Having had the experience of going there once for nothing, I called today. Guess what? "They'll be ready Wednesday." So I said "I'll call again Wednesday." He says "just come, they'll be ready." I'LL CALL FIRST!

I had already committed to them making the chains, so I would like to stick to my word. I'd get it ordered from you Dave, but can you get actual Stihl OEM stuff?

I meant what shop. No not Stihl , Sabre brand through Stens Canada.

Dave