Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

Snow caster shake / vibration when engaged .
Tried it out on an snow bank . Chewed through it quite well and shot the snow / ice granules about 20' in the air and about 10' to the side with the deflector all the way up. Better side distance with the deflector half down . I may need to do a wedge cut half way up the chute to get better side distance . Normal snow and getting wipers on the auger paddles will help as well

Ok , back to the vibration / shake , under load or not . This is my second caster , the first shuck violently but was visible bent . This one is straight , I checked . This thing has all new auger,shaft, pulley bearings ,chain and belt . The clutch has been rebuilt as well . I did notice that the gap between the auger is different from one paddle to the other one ,but is consistent along the auger along the length of it .
Any of you run into this before . I can' afford to have it machined true .

Dave

is it annoying bad or is it going to shake apart bad? Do you think it's an out of alignment issue or out of balance?

Hm.. the auger in your caster is the auger I had in mine and I can't recall any bad vibration. The shell of yours is from a caster I had that I never used. The reason I put the auger from the one I never used into mine was because one of the bearings was not the right type, the previous owner did that. I opened it with plans to put new bearings and then the snow started and couldn't wait for bearings so I just used the other auger which had old bearings but still functional. My point is that I don't know why yours would shake, as it didn't in mine.

Eugen wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:16 am Hm.. the auger in your caster is the auger I had in mine and I can't recall any bad vibration. The shell of yours is from a caster I had that I never used. The reason I put the auger from the one I never used into mine was because one of the bearings was not the right type, the previous owner did that. I opened it with plans to put new bearings and then the snow started and couldn't wait for bearings so I just used the other auger which had old bearings but still functional. My point is that I don't know why yours would shake, as it didn't in mine.

Still trying to figure it out .

Dave

Is this the caster you added rubber paddles to? Are the paddles the same size and the same distance out on the auger?

MattA wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:24 pm Is this the caster you added rubber paddles to? Are the paddles the same size and the same distance out on the auger?

I have not added the rubber paddles / wipers as yet .
I am putting the chains and weights on the rears . Then I will take the auger drive chain off and engage the pto to see weather it is the auger or the drive that is the source .

Dave

Driveshaft from belt pulley to chain cog bent. Or bad bearing on either end bad.


Noel

Did you reuse the driveshaft pulley? Maybe a wobble in that pulley where it's pinned on?

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@Propane57 @Jancoe Yes I reused the pulley and shaft . I still have to unhook the auger and run the drive to isolate which side it is coming from . But that will have to wait until tomorrow . It took me all day to fitt the chains and put the weights on the rears , but they are good and tight with no bungees. But that is done and it is back on the lift again .

Dave

I'm wondering if the uhmw guides on the chain are causing a vibration? I want to add uhmw to mine also.
What model caster is it?
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Dave the input shaft uses eccentric bearings. I recall I had issues on a snowcaster that I replaced these bearings. It was a couple of years ago but I think shaft was wobbling. Brian at Salem power helped me get it fixed. I think all I had to do was rotate the bearing collars and tighten the set screw.

Jancoe wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:34 pm I'm wondering if the uhmw guides on the chain are causing a vibration? I want to add uhmw to mine also.
What model caster is it?
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I beleave it is a L-84 , can't read the tag . I don't see how it could . It should remove any chain whip that would cause vibrations . Guides like this have been used for chains in everything for decades. But I will take the chain off today and run the pto and see what happens . Also going to try a balance test on the auger .

Dave

I removed the drive chain and rotated the shaft, pulley , idlers ect. and all look good . I rotated the auger and ya it is bent. No where near as bad as the last caster I had , but bent enough to have 1/4" gap difference between the 2 paddles . Now that is actually only 1/8" off of centre , but still move the mass off centre enough ,with the extra rpm from the drive sprocket up grade will cause a good vibration . Here's how I fixed It . I could have used my portta power but want to show how simple it can be done . I suspect the victim of a frozen news paper . Now with in a 1/32" . Happy with that . I must be the King of bent augers . Everyone I get is bent . Oh well getting really good at fixing them and this was good practise .
Here is one a neighbour gave me yesterday his work was throwing out because it was to much $$ to fix where they deal . Tomorrows work , fix and put out for sale . It is suppose to be warmer out , so I will test the tractor out tomorrow .

Dave

Well Dave, I'm glad you could fix it, and hope it's within your tolerance for vibration. Seems like my tolerance for vibration is a lot bigger, as I had used that auger and I thought it was just normal.

Eugen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:28 pm Well Dave, I'm glad you could fix it, and hope it's within your tolerance for vibration. Seems like my tolerance for vibration is a lot bigger, as I had used that auger and I thought it was just normal.

I upped the auger speed with the 18 tooth from 16 tooth drive sprocket . That increase in rpm most likely put into an area where the harmonics took over . Kinda like a cars tire where you don't get a vibration until a curtain speed . The increase probably nudge it up into that area . I like to change things and that some(most)times creates new problems Oh well keeps me busy .

Dave

No more vibration .

Dave

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:48 pm No more vibration .

Dave

That is great news Dave, and I'm relieved. Mine may be bent as well, I should check it once I get new bearings in.

Quick question for you. Mine is really really noisy. How is yours, with all new bearings and such?

Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:15 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:48 pm No more vibration .

Dave

That is great news Dave, and I'm relieved. Mine may be bent as well, I should check it once I get new bearings in.

Quick question for you. Mine is really really noisy. How is yours, with all new bearings and such?

It is noisier with no load than loaded , but that is the chain I still have a bit of fine tuneing to do there . Even that is not bad , if it was hooked to Frankie I would not be able to hear it at all . This new one with the machine gun muffs is surprisingly quiet and very little engine vibration .

Dave

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:55 pm

Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:15 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:48 pm No more vibration .

Dave

That is great news Dave, and I'm relieved. Mine may be bent as well, I should check it once I get new bearings in.

Quick question for you. Mine is really really noisy. How is yours, with all new bearings and such?

It is noisier with no load than loaded , but that is the chain I still have a bit of fine tuneing to do there . Even that is not bad , if it was hooked to Frankie I would not be able to hear it at all . This new one with the machine gun muffs is surprisingly quiet and very little engine vibration .

Dave

Dave, what's the machine gun muffs?

Keep the Peace
Harry

Machine Gun Muffs?

Bill

Yeah, the mufflers. I really like the look and the fact that they're quiet is a real plus. I too want to know where we can get those! come on Dave, don't keep it a secret.

Seabee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:39 pm Machine Gun Muffs?

Bill

Muff lers

Dave

Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:53 pm Yeah, the mufflers. I really like the look and the fact that they're quiet is a real plus. I too want to know where we can get those! come on Dave, don't keep it a secret.

This is a better price that I can get it from the wholesaler .

https://www.amazon.ca/Stens-105-296-Law ... B001OKBDOW

Dave

That's a good price indeed; local Stens dealer has it for around $100. But I'm not able to get it right now. good to know for the future though.

Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:15 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:48 pm No more vibration .

Dave

That is great news Dave, and I'm relieved. Mine may be bent as well, I should check it once I get new bearings in.

Quick question for you. Mine is really really noisy. How is yours, with all new bearings and such?

Eugen - My SB48 snowcaster Is noisy too but it doesn't vibrate much. My tractor only had a snowblower when I bought it with 55 hrs on it. Like new I guess.

Dave - Glad you got the snowcaster fixed. I like your method of fixing it.

MattA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:40 pm

Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:15 pm

DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:48 pm No more vibration .

Dave

That is great news Dave, and I'm relieved. Mine may be bent as well, I should check it once I get new bearings in.

Quick question for you. Mine is really really noisy. How is yours, with all new bearings and such?

Eugen - My SB48 snowcaster Is noisy too but it doesn't vibrate much. My tractor only had a snowblower when I bought it with 55 hrs on it. Like new I guess.

Dave - Glad you got the snowcaster fixed. I like your method of fixing it.

It worked well . But like anything your trying to straighten , you need to proceed a bit at a time or you can easily go past straight and have it bent the other way .


Dave

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That is great news Dave, and I'm relieved. Mine may be bent as well, I should check it once I get new bearings in.

Quick question for you. Mine is really really noisy. How is yours, with all new bearings and such?
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I always overhaul mine now. I thought the noise was normal. Until I replaced the auger and jackshaft bearings along with the 2 idlers. Now I can only tell the caster is on by the wind noise it makes. In fact, I often forget to turn it off because I really do not notice it is running. So, when I go to use it again and the starter does not turn I have to turn off the PTO.

Same with mower decks. They should be so quiet that you can hear only the air and the blades hitting the grass.

ssmewing wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:23 pm

That is great news Dave, and I'm relieved. Mine may be bent as well, I should check it once I get new bearings in.

Quick question for you. Mine is really really noisy. How is yours, with all new bearings and such?
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I always overhaul mine now. I thought the noise was normal. Until I replaced the auger and jackshaft bearings along with the 2 idlers. Now I can only tell the caster is on by the wind noise it makes. In fact, I often forget to turn it off because I really do not notice it is running. So, when I go to use it again and the starter does not turn I have to turn off the PTO.

Same with mower decks. They should be so quiet that you can hear only the air and the blades hitting the grass.
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Very quiet ,still a little chain noise . Still a little fine tuning to do when I get back to it .

Dave