And then there was a 310...
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And then there was a 310...
Drove this home yesterday...
Already dealing with the rotten lines.
Came with a doner.
And lots of parts...
Also came with some extra buckets...
And the loader is a 4 way...
Going to be a nice setup without too much horrible effort. I'm not saying it isn't going to be work, but so far it looks like it might be tolerable...-
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Re: And then there was a 310...
Anything yellow, big, of heavy duty metal, with hydraulics is mighty exciting for me. Oh, add diesel to it and it gets 15% better.
Funny, there's a pic with the engine inside, then 5 minutes later, poof -- engine gone!
Looking forward to the rest of the story!
Funny, there's a pic with the engine inside, then 5 minutes later, poof -- engine gone!
Looking forward to the rest of the story!
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That's the parts machine that came with it. Engine in the complete machine was rebuilt as some tech HS kid's final project apparently, so I should be pretty much good forever on that aspect. Essentially the same engine that's in my JD300 loader that has been virtually faultless since we got it in '70...
And yea, diesel. I ran across a couple really nice machines during the hunt that were gassers. I really didn't want to play the same games due to stale gas again.
And yea, diesel. I ran across a couple really nice machines during the hunt that were gassers. I really didn't want to play the same games due to stale gas again.
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Wow 3 backhoe buckets and a 4 in 1 front loader with a parts tractor, sounds like one heck of a deal! I hope you’ll be able to take us along as you go through it and do some work with it.
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Well, the weather this week seems to suck... Cold, damp, and rainy... So glad I took the week off.
At any rate, I did get 3 hoses off yesterday as examples for the local hose maker. Not as fast as a hydraulic shop, but, I can be patient to work with a neighbor.
So, being a cab machine, I can at least work inside the cab on a few things... I got the seat tower working kinda ok yesterday. The base slider/pivot really needs more work, but at least I can lock, and unlock it now. The drive home was interesting in that it was stuck on swivel, and so far forward, I think a very small person was running the machine. I can't tell from the parts breakout how the swivel is assembled. It has a lot of slop in it, and it would be nice to be able to tighten that up. I also ordered a new seat pan and cushion.
I managed to get the blower for the cab heater running. Seems it has a sketchy switch. I have something that can work for that on hand.
The wiper that worked a little on the drive home apparently decided it was done. The rubber is completely gone now. Where/how, I don't know. Of course, Deere being Deere, they used a weird proprietary arm, and blade combo. They want over $100 for the arm, and $70+ for the blade. They can pound sand on that... I ordered parts that I think will work to replace both with marine units. Still overpriced, but at least they're more generic, and generally available. I might have to make an adapter for the existing motor shaft, but hopefully not...
The hazards, and dome light work, but apart from the trip home, I doubt they're ever going to be needed again. I'll still replace the cracked lenses, or possibly the whole fixture on the hazards simply because it bothers me when things aren't "right". Plus, no reason to let insects start building nests in the housings.
Head lights, and work lights are a mess. It's plausible I might want those, so that's on today's list to putter with. I think the 5 up high on the cab will be ok to get running (though one of those is smashed, and will need a replacement). One even comes on, but at like 25% intensity, so possibly a crap ground. The two headlights on the loader pivot will be harder. The wire enters the loader tower, and I don't know where it comes back out. One wire is missing, and the other has no voltage currently. That will have to wait until it dries out and I can crawl under the machine. There is one spare headlight housing from the parts machine...
None of the gauges work. Plus the hour meter is gone. There's a full set of gauges on the doner machine, so hopefully those will work, assuming the wiring and sensors are ok. I'm guessing the kid that rebuilt the engine was tested on the engine only, and not electrical work. Or at least I hope so as the wiring is a pretty ugly mess. (not that that is weird on a machine this old) There are in line fuses, scattered all over the place, and nothing is labeled. Plus, just about all the wire I've seen is just red. Will have to take the label maker out with me today. I should probably just rewire the whole thing to a fuse block, but I'm not sure I want to get that far in to it in crap weather...
My neighbor may be interested in the rear tires. He's got a Deere 302A, and I imagine they'll just bolt up. They're a little dry/cracked, but he said his are at the point he doesn't know when they're going to blow. The rears on the parts machine are pretty good, so they'll go on mine once I get the hydraulics back together. Hate changing tractor tires... I don't see and corrosion on the stems, so hopefully they're not loaded. Probably wouldn't need to be for the original owner's application, but you never know... I'll know in a hurry once the lug bolts are loose.
At any rate, I did get 3 hoses off yesterday as examples for the local hose maker. Not as fast as a hydraulic shop, but, I can be patient to work with a neighbor.
So, being a cab machine, I can at least work inside the cab on a few things... I got the seat tower working kinda ok yesterday. The base slider/pivot really needs more work, but at least I can lock, and unlock it now. The drive home was interesting in that it was stuck on swivel, and so far forward, I think a very small person was running the machine. I can't tell from the parts breakout how the swivel is assembled. It has a lot of slop in it, and it would be nice to be able to tighten that up. I also ordered a new seat pan and cushion.
I managed to get the blower for the cab heater running. Seems it has a sketchy switch. I have something that can work for that on hand.
The wiper that worked a little on the drive home apparently decided it was done. The rubber is completely gone now. Where/how, I don't know. Of course, Deere being Deere, they used a weird proprietary arm, and blade combo. They want over $100 for the arm, and $70+ for the blade. They can pound sand on that... I ordered parts that I think will work to replace both with marine units. Still overpriced, but at least they're more generic, and generally available. I might have to make an adapter for the existing motor shaft, but hopefully not...
The hazards, and dome light work, but apart from the trip home, I doubt they're ever going to be needed again. I'll still replace the cracked lenses, or possibly the whole fixture on the hazards simply because it bothers me when things aren't "right". Plus, no reason to let insects start building nests in the housings.
Head lights, and work lights are a mess. It's plausible I might want those, so that's on today's list to putter with. I think the 5 up high on the cab will be ok to get running (though one of those is smashed, and will need a replacement). One even comes on, but at like 25% intensity, so possibly a crap ground. The two headlights on the loader pivot will be harder. The wire enters the loader tower, and I don't know where it comes back out. One wire is missing, and the other has no voltage currently. That will have to wait until it dries out and I can crawl under the machine. There is one spare headlight housing from the parts machine...
None of the gauges work. Plus the hour meter is gone. There's a full set of gauges on the doner machine, so hopefully those will work, assuming the wiring and sensors are ok. I'm guessing the kid that rebuilt the engine was tested on the engine only, and not electrical work. Or at least I hope so as the wiring is a pretty ugly mess. (not that that is weird on a machine this old) There are in line fuses, scattered all over the place, and nothing is labeled. Plus, just about all the wire I've seen is just red. Will have to take the label maker out with me today. I should probably just rewire the whole thing to a fuse block, but I'm not sure I want to get that far in to it in crap weather...
My neighbor may be interested in the rear tires. He's got a Deere 302A, and I imagine they'll just bolt up. They're a little dry/cracked, but he said his are at the point he doesn't know when they're going to blow. The rears on the parts machine are pretty good, so they'll go on mine once I get the hydraulics back together. Hate changing tractor tires... I don't see and corrosion on the stems, so hopefully they're not loaded. Probably wouldn't need to be for the original owner's application, but you never know... I'll know in a hurry once the lug bolts are loose.
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Re: And then there was a 310...
TS this thread will be one I definitely will be watching. Good luck on your project. Harry
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Re: And then there was a 310...
Looks like quite the project. I'm assuming you have to remove the outer hydraulic lines to get at the middle ones?
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Oh yea... The lines that run from the valves to the pivot point manifold are tightly packed. So far they have come apart fairly well, and I have a pretty good selection of wrenches, line wrenches, crows foot wrenches, and misc weird things to work on it. It will be an oily mess, but that's to be expected. And as tight as they may be, they're not packed in quite as bad as some of the areas on the 646. There are plenty of spots worse than the 646, but at the moment, I don't have to get in to them.
I noticed that a lovely new soft line running off the main pump runs right through where the side screens should be... The prior owner specifically let me know he had just replaced that, and it was quite pricey. Too bad it's the wrong part. On the plus side, the correct steel line is sitting in the pile of parts from the doner I'm pretty sure. It isn't a top priority since it works, and doesn't leak, but I know it is going to bother me not having the screens in, and having that hose sticking out the side...
In other news, I got the other 3 work lights to light up today. Simple broken wire, so no big thing. They also run really dimly though. They're all grounded to the ROPS cage, which should really have a solid chassis ground, but have to see if I've got serious voltage drop there. It's a solid 12 out to the lights, so it's either ground, or something strange like they put 24v lamps in there. Another shitty weather day, so no desire to climb on the wet slippery steel to pull out a bulb.
Both of the hazards have cracked up lenses... So while taking a break inside to get warn today, I read the operators manual. Apparently the lights on there aren't stock. They should be some kind of dual option red tail light/white flood. The doner has what looks like is in the manual, so perhaps I'll get lucky there too.
Tomorrow is still wet, but should be warmer... Might be a good day to pressure wash it. It has a green pallor as a result of algae, and lichen. It's been repainted at least once, but seems they used the right color on most of it, so I think it will clean up ok if you don't look too close...
I noticed that a lovely new soft line running off the main pump runs right through where the side screens should be... The prior owner specifically let me know he had just replaced that, and it was quite pricey. Too bad it's the wrong part. On the plus side, the correct steel line is sitting in the pile of parts from the doner I'm pretty sure. It isn't a top priority since it works, and doesn't leak, but I know it is going to bother me not having the screens in, and having that hose sticking out the side...
In other news, I got the other 3 work lights to light up today. Simple broken wire, so no big thing. They also run really dimly though. They're all grounded to the ROPS cage, which should really have a solid chassis ground, but have to see if I've got serious voltage drop there. It's a solid 12 out to the lights, so it's either ground, or something strange like they put 24v lamps in there. Another shitty weather day, so no desire to climb on the wet slippery steel to pull out a bulb.
Both of the hazards have cracked up lenses... So while taking a break inside to get warn today, I read the operators manual. Apparently the lights on there aren't stock. They should be some kind of dual option red tail light/white flood. The doner has what looks like is in the manual, so perhaps I'll get lucky there too.
Tomorrow is still wet, but should be warmer... Might be a good day to pressure wash it. It has a green pallor as a result of algae, and lichen. It's been repainted at least once, but seems they used the right color on most of it, so I think it will clean up ok if you don't look too close...
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Re: And then there was a 310...
Don’t you love the “getting to know you” phase of a new project!
Most of my old stuff all have body ground lights. I usually just plan on running a separate ground wire to them when I rewire something. I figure it can’t hurt.
Most of my old stuff all have body ground lights. I usually just plan on running a separate ground wire to them when I rewire something. I figure it can’t hurt.