Colt Case Ingersoll Garden Tractors

So on to this Case 244 to get ready for winter. Changed the oil and put air in one tire yesterday. Just have to take the deck off and put thrower on. Sounds easy right ! Hehe. Have to grease and lube stuff too.

Finished up the LGT 165 Ford yesterday.
Noel

More tractors, they say, more fun, they say! Until you have to get them all lubed, oiled, clean, and so on.

3 more to get ready after this one Eugen. Lots and lots of fun. That’s what I tell myself any way.

Noel

Not easy getting the thrower down off of that bench by me self. Getting to be a little to much for this old fella. Any way. It’s on the floor. I’ll continue. One troubles is, I have not seen the belt for it yet any where.

Noel

Well well well, what a thing to get on the tractor. Jumpins I thought they were easy to do. Any way, it’s on and it lifts up and down, chute rod hooked up and all that works. Now if I could only find the belt.

Noel

Amazing. I found the belt. Put it on and tested thrower a few times on and off. Seems good. So this one is done. 3 more to do. This one is next. Only carb trouble here on it.

Noel

Just how much snow removal do you have to do?

Bob

thebuildist wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:38 pm Just how much snow removal do you have to do?

Bob

You know Bob, if you have to ask you can't afford it!

Up here next to the North Pole we get snow by the yard!

thebuildist wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:38 pm Just how much snow removal do you have to do?

Bob

Lots. And need back up tractors. They are old. They break. And I need to have some thing to use. I can find more pictures.

Noel

Every year that goes by the less I like snow! You can keep that stuff up there. Good plan having multiple tractors ready for winter. Old things do break. I try to follow the idea that 2=1, 1=none, and having 3+ is better. I can feel the chill in the air around here. I guess I better get my 446 ready soon!

Propane57 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:39 pm Not easy getting the thrower down off of that bench by me self. Getting to be a little to much for this old fella. Any way. It’s on the floor. I’ll continue. One troubles is, I have not seen the belt for it yet any where.

Noel

I strap them to a skid and move them around with Frankie then lift off with overhead winch crane . Like you and many others , too old and broken down to be musculling them around anymore .

Eugen wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:47 pm

thebuildist wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:38 pm Just how much snow removal do you have to do?

Bob

You know Bob, if you have to ask you can't afford it!

Up here next to the North Pole we get snow by the yard!

Soon to be up for sale . Do it you sell (Ikea style ) Igloos .

There now. I think I have the John Deere carb issue fixed. Will see when I have to use it. I think the main trouble was the needle sticking in the seat. Changed the filter. Didn’t seem dirty, but harder to blow thur than the new one. Put it’s a different type of filter. Put fresh high test gas in too.
I have have trouble with those paper type filters before. The Case 224 would not pull gasoline thru with the fuel pump. Put one of those white filters on and it worked fine.
Those white filters have a better screen in them than the same type red ones.

Noel

JSinMO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:25 pm Every year that goes by the less I like snow! You can keep that stuff up there. Good plan having multiple tractors ready for winter. Old things do break. I try to follow the idea that 2=1, 1=none, and having 3+ is better. I can feel the chill in the air around here. I guess I better get my 446 ready soon!

That's what we call N+1 redundancy in the engineering world. Basically you have an extra in case one breaks


Noel - How many snow removal tractors are you preparing this year?

Noel - How many snow removal tractors are you preparing this year?


Matt, between my son and I, there is 7. 2 Cases, 2 Fords, 2 MFs and 1 John Deere. I will have 5 at my place. But not sure just yet. May but one of the Cases at sons place. So that would be 4 for me, 3 for him.

Noel

Propane57 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:38 am There now. I think I have the John Deere carb issue fixed. Will see when I have to use it. I think the main trouble was the needle sticking in the seat. Changed the filter. Didn’t seem dirty, but harder to blow thur than the new one. Put it’s a different type of filter. Put fresh high test gas in too.
I have have trouble with those paper type filters before. The Case 224 would not pull gasoline thru with the fuel pump. Put one of those white filters on and it worked fine.
Those white filters have a better screen in them than the same type red ones.

Noel

I have been told not to use those small pleated paper filters on our low pressure systems as they are too restrictive and plug up easily. BUT I always have, I only had one fail quickly (couple of hours) and that was my fault, I tried to savage 2 gallons of old gas by diluting it with 4 gallons of non ethanol premium gas. I could not see any crud on the filter element, so the crud must have been almost microscopic. I can get those small pleated paper filters at tractor shows for $.50, and for $.75 I can get the larger filter which I have started using figuring that the larger surface area should mean less resistance and longer life.


Gordy

Hoping we get a month yet without significant snow, but knowing it could come at any time, I followed Noel's lead.
Won't be mowing any more this year, so deck off the 448. Got the blade on. Chains can wait. Have to find some wheel weights or load the tires too.

That red-black-white combination is really pleasant on the eye Tim!

Eugen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:53 pm That red-black-white combination is really pleasant on the eye Tim!

Thanks Eugen, I think it looks amazing with the power red blade.

Looks good Tim. You could also go with a weight box or suitcase weights + wheel weights. I'd post pictures but I don't want to hijack Noel's post.

Post away Matt, I don’t mind. The rear weights on my Cade 446 are front wheel weights from a farm tractor. 75 lbs each.

Noel

Propane57 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:34 am Post away Matt, I don’t mind. The rear weights on my Cade 446 are front wheel weights from a farm tractor. 75 lbs each.

Noel

I'll have to spend a little time looking for some tractor weights. There is usually Case weights for sale locally, but as usual, when you need some you can't find any.

Timj wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:29 am

Propane57 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:34 am Post away Matt, I don’t mind. The rear weights on my Cade 446 are front wheel weights from a farm tractor. 75 lbs each.

Noel

I'll have to spend a little time looking for some tractor weights. There is usually Case weights for sale locally, but as usual, when you need some you can't find any.

If you have a tractor salvage yard around, Look for JD combine weights for the steering tires. They are made for 16" rims, and come in outer solid weights or inner split weights to fit around the spindle. I have a set of inners, each half is 52 pounds so 104 pounds per tire plus some for nuts and bolts. And mount to the outside of my rims perfectly. I forget but think someone said the outers were 150 or 160 pounds.Now if a guy were lucky enough to find both inner and outer


Gordy

Gordy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:06 pm
If you have a tractor salvage yard around, Look for JD combine weights for the steering tires. They are made for 16" rims, and come in outer solid weights or inner split weights to fit around the spindle. I have a set of inners, each half is 52 pounds so 104 pounds per tire plus some for nuts and bolts. And mount to the outside of my rims perfectly. I forget but think someone said the outers were 150 or 160 pounds.Now if a guy were lucky enough to find both inner and outer


Gordy

I am that lucky guy, found both the inner and outer combine weights. And they are great! The outer weights are 162 lbs per piece. The JD part numbers for them are:

H78062
H93849

I called a salvage yard that had a various combines and asked them about these parts numbers. Turns out they had one JD combine with the full set of inner and outer weights. They fit the 400 series rim perfectly. But it was a long drive for me to get them, more than 3 hours one way. I still kick myself for not asking to buy the combine wheels as well. They were 16" diameter, regular 6 bolt pattern, but they had some giant AG tires on them. Oh how nice it would have looked on my 444!!!

However, when I go anywhere far I look to see if there's any salvage yard on my way, so that I ask about the combine weights.

I just remembered this pdf for weight options.

file:///home/chronos/u-c92f79d5c79e4948a1d771aa0376a8cc9af27e5b/MyFiles/Downloads/Recovered%20files%20from%20Google%20Drive/Tractor%20Weight%20Options%20(2).pdf


Gordy

Gordy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:01 pm I just remembered this pdf for weight options.

file:///home/chronos/u-c92f79d5c79e4948a1d771aa0376a8cc9af27e5b/MyFiles/Downloads/Recovered%20files%20from%20Google%20Drive/Tractor%20Weight%20Options%20(2).pdf


Gordy

Thanks Gordy, but the file didn't get attached. Can you please attach it, or add it to the technical library?

Eugen wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:38 pm

Gordy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:01 pm I just remembered this pdf for weight options.

file:///home/chronos/u-c92f79d5c79e4948a1d771aa0376a8cc9af27e5b/MyFiles/Downloads/Recovered%20files%20from%20Google%20Drive/Tractor%20Weight%20Options%20(2).pdf


Gordy

Thanks Gordy, but the file didn't get attached. Can you please attach it, or add it to the technical library?

Not sure how to do that But if you copy and paste it to google search it should open, at least it does for me. It was from the old group and when I tried to save it as a photo, it ended up as a link opening off site


Gordy

Gordy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:47 pm

Eugen wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:38 pm

Gordy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:01 pm I just remembered this pdf for weight options.

file:///home/chronos/u-c92f79d5c79e4948a1d771aa0376a8cc9af27e5b/MyFiles/Downloads/Recovered%20files%20from%20Google%20Drive/Tractor%20Weight%20Options%20(2).pdf


Gordy

Thanks Gordy, but the file didn't get attached. Can you please attach it, or add it to the technical library?

Not sure how to do that But if you copy and paste it to google search it should open, at least it does for me. It was from the old group and when I tried to save it as a photo, it ended up as a link opening off site


Gordy

Tried , but would not open on my Chrome Book .

For anyone with a three point hitch, it sure is hard to beat concrete. $50 in materials delivers 300 lbs of counterweight that's clean looking and about effortless to install and remove.

The box pictured will hold up to 420 lbs of concrete. (7 bags at 60 lbs each.)
If you build it 20 inches high, it'll hold 8 full bags, your choice.

I chose to fill it to 5 bags, 300 lbs of dry concrete, plus a bit of retained moisture plus the steel, makes it right about 325 lbs of counterweight.

Bob

This may be the file.

Timj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:33 am This may be the file.
Tractor Weight Options (1).pdf

Close but mine has "(2).pdf on the end of it, it was an updated version with a couple more cast iron weights that will fit.


Gordy

OK lets see if this old knucklehead figured out the screenshot thing

NOT what I was hoping for Lets try cropping out the excess
In the preview this looks much better


Gordy

Those ford ones are what I have on my Case 446.

Noel

Seen a set of front wheel weights on a David Brown 885 this morning while watching my morning plough match from England. These would fit the 446 nicely. This David Brown front wheels are 6.0 X 16. But these weights would not be to easy to find.

Noel