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Done a thing
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:30 pm
by DavidBarkey
Well it was bound to happen . With all the down time I have had forced on me with my currant situation , I done gone and bought a hoist . I have been looking for some time but most were too expensive or wrong type . It is a Ford Smith , made here in Ontario. $1000 , and with adapters will pick up tractors by the wheels or frame and our vehicles for tire changes ect. My buddy will pick it up for me next week then I can arrange to have a tech come in and install it . It will help alot getting caught up when I get back on my feet . No more of this
. Oh and ordered a couple of bump caps, so no more of this
either .
brothers
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:49 pm
by Eugen
That sounds like a great investment Dave!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:40 pm
by DavidBarkey
Have all new seals for the hoist rams now . 3/4" Wedge lock bolts on there way . Hope to stand up the 2 post towers next weeks . Need to do some more prep work and arrange help to stand them up .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:53 pm
by propane1
My son and I put up a two post hoist in his garage almost two years ago now. My my, what a great thing to have. Made ramps for it to put garden tractors up on it too.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:50 pm
by DavidBarkey
Propane57 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:53 pm
My son and I put up a two post hoist in his garage almost two years ago now. My my, what a great thing to have. Made ramps for it to put garden tractors up on it too.
Noel
My plan is to make adjustable wheel saddles and lift the tractors by the wheels . When I need to take heavy loaded wheels off I can lift it up set up on stands and then use the lift to remove the wheel .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:36 pm
by Eugen
There was one for sale yesterday in Mississauga for $700. No money and nowhere to put it now
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:38 pm
by Doublet
Nice Lift, I wanted one but shop ceiling is too short. So I had to settle for this.
Table lift works very well but have a small jack setup that slides under tractor to remove wheels. Too old to get down and dirty any more. Like to set in chair and work on stuff.
Doublet (Terry)
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:57 am
by DavidBarkey
Doublet wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:38 pm
Nice Lift, I wanted one but shop ceiling is too short. So I had to settle for this.
Table lift works very well but have a small jack setup that slides under tractor to remove wheels. Too old to get down and dirty any more. Like to set in chair and work on stuff.
lift table 1.jpg
Doublet (Terry)
Those little table are great , But won't hold sub-compact tractors .
I have the same problem with ceiling height . I will only be able to lift a max 46" but will be enough for what I need to do on a daily bases.
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:48 am
by propane1
Hoists are a great thing. A few pictures of my son's.
Even got it set up to as a alignment machine for the garden tractors.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:07 am
by DavidBarkey
I do a lot of mower deck work . Part of the plan is to be able to lift tractor to working height rolling a bench I have under lowering the deck onto it then raising the tractor out of the way while I roll out the bench and work on the deck at a decent height . Like others I just can't do the on the hands and knees much anymore .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:12 am
by DavidBarkey
@Propane57 Having a proper automotive hoist to work with is a back saver . Nice shop he has there . How far from your place is it ?
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:18 am
by propane1
He’s about 15 minutes away Dave. With his side jobs at home hoist is payed for now.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:34 am
by Eugen
Nice!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:56 pm
by DavidBarkey
My buddy and his and me and my son , we stood up ,levelled and bolted down the hoist towers today . This week I will work on hoses , electrical, and arms .
All the safeties have to gone over and set up for a lower than stock ceiling height .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:32 am
by DavidBarkey
Guys , Need a switch to limit travel of the hoist due to ceiling height . Have difficulty finding what I need that is not hundreds of $$ . I Can make brackets ect.
Normally closed , contact opens the circuit.
needs rating 15A 230 volt
Motor is 230 single phaze .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:03 am
by Eugen
Dave, years ago I worked in a factory, we had many large lathes and milling machines. This type of switches were always used to limit movement of parts. They are not expensive but impossible to find locally.
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:06 am
by Eugen
Actually show me what you have in mind, I might have it.
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:06 am
by Jancoe
Dave, does this lift not have the overhead beam with the shut off bar on it?
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Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:17 am
by DavidBarkey
Jancoe wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:06 am
Dave, does this lift not have the overhead beam with the shut off bar on it?
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No , it was designed for a high ceiling . I am adapting it to suit my needs . But a shut off bar is a good idea instead of mast switch .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:23 am
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:06 am
Actually show me what you have in mind, I might have it.
Ya , anything like the one you showed as long as it will break one side of the 230v single phase to stop the motor when the top of the mast get to the ceiling in case I am off in lala land and not paying attention . I don't want to have to fix the ceiling .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:43 am
by DavidBarkey
@Eugen If you could bring what ever you have that like that when you come up next . Here is a pic. of the motor plate .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:50 am
by Eugen
Sure. Can you show what's in the control box?
A beefy motor like that probably has an electromechanical contactor relay in the box.
Basically I want to know if it already uses one of these guys or should I look for one
Microswitches I don't have but they're cheap on digikey.
Normally I would put at least two microswitches in series with the coil of the contactor relay.
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:21 pm
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:50 am
Sure. Can you show what's in the control box?
A beefy motor like that probably has an electromechanical contactor relay in the box.
Basically I want to know if it already uses one of these guys or should I look for one
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Microswitches I don't have but they're cheap on digikey.
Normally I would put at least two microswitches in series with the coil of the contactor relay.
Just 1 15A 230vac push button .
Agreed one micro switch over each tower and one on the stop bar to go with the go button .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:38 pm
by Eugen
Sorry Dave, looks like you were not lucky this time. The one I got is 10A
You can still have it if you want it.
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:43 pm
by Eugen
I would feel much better with something like this in that position.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/ALLEN-BRADLEY-C ... 632-2357-0
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:24 pm
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:38 pm
Sorry Dave, looks like you were not lucky this time. The one I got is 10A
You can still have it if you want it.
That ok bud, I will keep looking .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:28 pm
by DavidBarkey
I will wait until you are up next and you can have a quick look at it and the manual that has all the spec.s . You know this stuff better than . I know I need safeties to be there and can wire them but have troubles knowing exactly what to get .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:23 am
by DavidBarkey
Starting to get the wheel lift adapters made.
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:06 pm
by DavidBarkey
Have the 2 for front wheels made , working on the 2 for the rear wheels . Hope to have them done this weekend . Biggest thing I am fighting is fumes. I have a mask , a filter fan and an exhaust fan . But still have to take breaks to let the air clear . Only 24 x 32 shop . Can't tolerate cold any more so can't open the doors for long . I like many will be glad to see warmer weather .
As soon as the 1"x 4" bolts arrive I can upload pics. of the 446 on the lift . Doing laundry right now because the
is complaining about the smell of my work clothes in the hamper .
Oh well happy wife happy life they say .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:12 pm
by Harry
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:06 pm
Have the 2 for front wheels made , working on the 2 for the rear wheels . Hope to have them done this weekend . Biggest thing I am fighting is fumes. I have a mask , a filter fan and an exhaust fan . But still have to take breaks to let the air clear . Only 24 x 32 shop . Can't tolerate cold any more so can't open the doors for long . I like many will be glad to see warmer weather .
As soon as the 1"x 4" bolts arrive I can upload pics. of the 446 on the lift . Doing laundry right now because the
is complaining about the smell of my work clothes in the hamper .
Oh well happy wife happy life they say .
Dave
Dave I'm confused. Fumes from the milling?
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Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:08 pm
by Eugen
Dave, I'm looking forward to seeing it up and running. I'm going to ask a buddy of mine if he got any contactor big enough for your project. The two 10A contactors I have, in parallel, might just do. But you need some limit switches, that's for sure.
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:01 am
by DavidBarkey
Harry wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:12 pm
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:06 pm
Have the 2 for front wheels made , working on the 2 for the rear wheels . Hope to have them done this weekend . Biggest thing I am fighting is fumes. I have a mask , a filter fan and an exhaust fan . But still have to take breaks to let the air clear . Only 24 x 32 shop . Can't tolerate cold any more so can't open the doors for long . I like many will be glad to see warmer weather .
As soon as the 1"x 4" bolts arrive I can upload pics. of the 446 on the lift . Doing laundry right now because the
is complaining about the smell of my work clothes in the hamper .
Oh well happy wife happy life they say .
Dave
Dave I'm confused. Fumes from the milling?
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Harry
Lol , No from cutting, grinding and welding . I have to do a lot of the cutting with a chop saw and a 7" grinder with cutting disk . The mill work is the clean bit .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:49 am
by Harry
Okay Dave! That makes sense. My wife always complains when I do a lot of grinding too. SMELLY!
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Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:59 am
by DavidBarkey
Have to step away for a day . Have massage today and some domestic work that needs doing .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:30 pm
by Harry
Dave, they sure look heavy duty enough. Great job!
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Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:50 am
by DavidBarkey
Harry wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:30 pm
Dave, they sure look heavy duty enough. Great job!
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Harry
Thanks , Have to be able to safely pick up Frankie and sub compact tractors as well as riders .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:34 am
by Eugen
How can you make sure the tractor doesn't fall down the middle if the wheels are not very stable like the front usually?
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:19 am
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:34 am
How can you make sure the tractor doesn't fall down the middle if the wheels are not very stable like the front usually?
I am not quite sure what you are asking ,but the arms have locks to keep them from swinging out and the adapters are adjustable for a tight fit under the tire and if I feel the need I can put over tire straps .
Maybe when I have them finished and a tractor on them , pictures will be more self explanatory .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:05 pm
by propane1
Nice job Dave. I was wondering if the hoist arms have locks. Straps over the tires is a good thing too. Can’t wait to see a tractor up on it.
And the rolling pin emoji is working great, when I saw Dave’s post I noticed the rolling pin emoji, even before I started reading, and knew the wife is mentioned. Hehe.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:19 pm
by Jancoe
Nice Dave,
We have 4 lifts at work for lifting any heavy duty chassis. 18k lbs each. The lift uses the same idea you have built. They work great. Our lifts have a spring loaded pin to hold the adjustable arms in place. I'm sure you could drill a few holes in the tubing at 1" intervals and use a pin to lock the adjustable arm from sliding. That way you can adjust to fit different wheels. As long as the opening between the lift arms are smaller than the wheel diameter you don't have to worry about anything falling through.
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Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:41 pm
by DavidBarkey
Jancoe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:19 pm
Nice Dave,
We have 4 lifts at work for lifting any heavy duty chassis. 18k lbs each. The lift uses the same idea you have built. They work great. Our lifts have a spring loaded pin to hold the adjustable arms in place. I'm sure you could drill a few holes in the tubing at 1" intervals and use a pin to lock the adjustable arm from sliding. That way you can adjust to fit different wheels. As long as the opening between the lift arms are smaller than the wheel diameter you don't have to worry about anything falling through.
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I have them drilled for the most common tires I have on hand and plan on using some sort of pin set up to hold them .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:36 pm
by DavidBarkey
The rolling bench is 35" tall . Lots of room to drop a deck on to it an roll out from underneath for service ect.
Still some fine tuning to do , but works . Next step to see how the adapters handle Frankie at 2175 lbs with loader and blower on him . I know the hoist can do 8000 lbs easy (rated for 9000 lbs)
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:19 pm
by propane1
Jumpins that looks great Dave. Lots of room to get at every thing. And having the rolling table is good. I have one of those tables.
Now if you want to take a wheel off. What do you do ? Must have a stand or something to under and drop hoist a bit ?
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:33 pm
by DavidBarkey
Propane57 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:19 pm
Jumpins that looks great Dave. Lots of room to get at every thing. And having the rolling table is good. I have one of those tables.
Now if you want to take a wheel off. What do you do ? Must have a stand or something to under and drop hoist a bit ?
Noel
I have 4 axle stands if needed . When it it is difficult to "jack up " a lawn mower I can lift like this and then set on stands .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:51 am
by Eugen
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:36 pm
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The rolling bench is 35" tall . Lots of room to drop a deck on to it an roll out from underneath for service ect.
Still some fine tuning to do , but works . Next step to see how the adapters handle Frankie at 2175 lbs with loader and blower on him . I know the hoist can do 8000 lbs easy (rated for 9000 lbs)
Dave
Nicely done Dave! Solid job!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:04 am
by DavidBarkey
Starting to look like a professional shop .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:38 am
by Eugen
Like a Boss! Looks great Dave, and it'll come in real handy!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:45 am
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:38 am
Like a Boss! Looks great Dave, and it'll come in real handy!
Good thing as they don't find me hansom .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:15 pm
by Eugen
But can your lift do this Dave?!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:40 pm
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:15 pm
But can your lift do this Dave?!
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Beleave it or not I have actually done that on purpose . We did it to pull the whole rolling frame out from a parts car then lowered the body onto a trailer said good bye .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:33 pm
by Harry
With warmer weather coming and almost out of wood close to my shop, I decided to clean up the wood furnace and give it a coat of high heat header paint. First I gave the stove pipe a light sanding and then wire brushed the furnace down good. I could have used a third can of paint but two did a good job. After the paint dried I fired up the furnace and opened the two overhead doors to get a flow of air through the shop. That paint is nasty to breathe.
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Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:30 pm
by propane1
Ya nasty for sure. I’d do it a second time just to get it all gone. Looks good.
Never know when
could come out and give you the
hehe.
Sorry Harry. Your wife is probably one of the good ones.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:58 am
by DavidBarkey
Propane57 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:30 pm
Ya nasty for sure. I’d do it a second time just to get it all gone. Looks good.
Never know when
could come out and give you the
hehe.
Sorry Harry. Your wife is probably one of the good ones.
Noel
There all good ones . Some are just not good for you . My first one was not good for me
, but turned out to be good for someone else. Over 25 years with the second one , so been good for me .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:38 pm
by Harry
Propane57 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:30 pm
Ya nasty for sure. I’d do it a second time just to get it all gone. Looks good.
Never know when
could come out and give you the
hehe.
Sorry Harry. Your wife is probably one of the good ones.
Noel
They are all good some of the time and some are good all the time. But all are not good all of the time. We all have are own peculiarities.
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Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:53 am
by Harry
Yesterday I switched my tractors around to get ready for spring work outside. I moved my 446-winter tractor into the lean-to and moved the 644 lbh into the shop. I'm done working on the 446 but the 644 lbh needs some attention. The loader bucket cylinder is leaking oil and needs a seal kit, which is on the shelf ready to be installed. I also need to look at the "banana" control plate for wear. It still works fine but there is a noticeable amount of play. I'll probably change the oils while I'm at it and give it a good going over while it's in the shop.
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Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:48 am
by DavidBarkey
Found some new adapters for my hoist
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:48 am
by Eugen
Wow, I hope to see seats like that in your shop! That's genius!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:09 am
by Harry
Once I was having a few of my friends over to enjoy some sausage on the grill and share some libations. I lifted my Snapon scissor lift up to a comfortable height and put a 4X8 sheet of plywood on it for a table.
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Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:43 pm
by DavidBarkey
Eugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:48 am
Wow, I hope to see seats like that in your shop! That's genius!
Just need to find some seats like that . I remember seeing new repop one some where .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:59 pm
by propane1
I think Princess auto had those seats.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:46 pm
by Harry
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:10 pm
by DavidBarkey
Currently not available from King Jeffery and I see that PA. has them listed for $10
, but not available until 5/9/2022. I guess we will have to sit on the porch with the
ss
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:12 pm
by Eugen
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:04 am
by propane1
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:07 am
by DavidBarkey
Cub Cadet , 54" commercial mower . 234 hrs and 2 out 3 deck spindles (not greasalbe) with bottom bearing failure . One year old still under warranty . They tell him they can have new bearings in a couple days but can't get to it for a month to do it under warranty . He needs it now so guess who is doing it . I found it doing spring maintenance for him . The deck wieghs a ton , with the lift I don't have to remove it to do the work on it .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:36 am
by propane1
Just a great thing a hoist. We took a motor out of the back of my sons truck, a week or so ago with the hoist.
Lifted a truck cap off sons yard trailer, then backed in the dodge truck and put the cap on the truck, with the hoist. No lifting by us. Those truck caps are heavy. Especially the 8’ ones.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:43 pm
by DavidBarkey
Stress testing the hoist today .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:50 pm
by Eugen
oh no, you are so cruel Dave! that could break the hoist!!!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:59 pm
by propane1
Now Dave. Don’t stand under that. You just never know.
Noel
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:53 pm
by thebuildist
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 1:43 pm
Stress testing the hoist today .
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Dave
Hey Dave,
Can you give me a lift?
I know I'd have to come pick it up...
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:25 am
by DavidBarkey
As silly as it looks ,it actually is rather nice not to have bend over or kneel down to work on them . Over kill is under rated .
So nice to have them at workable height . So much easier on my back .
Dave
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:20 am
by Eugen
DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 7:25 am
As silly as it looks ,it actually is rather nice not to have bend over or kneel down to work on them . Over kill is under rated .
So nice to have them at workable height . So much easier on my back .
Dave
so true!!! we laugh but we all want it!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 11:12 pm
by Eugen
Dave, to keep up with you I'm thinking of building this type of hoist!
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:23 am
by propane1
Re: Done a thing
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:19 am
by DavidBarkey
