The Fluids Debate

[MattA]

Found it. Ingersoll 4016 cold weather startup posted by earthnstrings on the old forum.

I intentionally left the Ingy 4016 outside over night to see if I could depend on the tractor. I learned once I bumped the throttle and choke levers up and down a couple times prior to cranking it started right up.

I was also intentionally testing the hydraulic system to see if it would handle the conditions. You will see in the included video that I put the tranny in neutral and moved the Travel Control Valve just a bit in the slow position so the hydraulic oil circulated and warmed up.

Location : Tuftonboro NH
Conditions: Left outside over night in windy weather that fell to -12 degrees F
Engine Start : The temp was -2 degrees F when I started the engine

Hydarulic Oil = Shell Rotella T4 10w - 30
Hydraulic Filter = OEM C33445

I hope this information is helpful to those living in frigid climates.

[Eugen]

@MattA how cold was it?

Here's the black frame 226 I used to have, cold start at -14C/7F


https://vimeo.com/390195598




Probably 15w40 in it.

[DavidBarkey]

I am with you Bob on the Zink and getting the "blood" moving quicker in the cold . Thats why I also have block heaters in the Onan oil pan and on the bottom of the hydra tank . 1/2 to 1 hour before start up I plug them in and some time the Onan will start without choke and the hydra is quick within minutes .

[MattA]

@MattA how cold was it?

Here's the black frame 226 I used to have, cold start at -14C/7F


https://vimeo.com/390195598




Probably 15w40 in it.

I updated my post above with the info.

Your 226 seems to startup ok. Onan powered? I know your a single lung Kohler guy but the 226 has dual stacks.

[Eugen]

Yeah @MattA , my 226 with the Onan B43M, engine was strong. Sold it a while ago as a package with all kinds of attachments. It was a good looking tractor, with those wide wheels at the back, black frame, and beefy looking hood.

[NGraham]

Good one Eugene!


@NGraham hope you don't mind us, we like having some fun in this hobby too. But the information outside the jokes is real, I can tell you that some of these guys have been doing Case garden tractors for many many years. Actually, now I'm really curious, maybe I'll open a thread about it.

Haha not at all I love it! Really happy you guys aren't a bunch of meatheads that yell at each other like some other forums I've been in, I thought I'd use my question as a feeler.

[Timj]

I'm in the third winter of switching over to switching over to running synthetic in my small engines. The three Onan's and 23hp Kohler have been starting easy and doing well on 5w-40 Rotella T-6.
This fall after doing the hydraulic work on the 448 I also used the 5w40 t6 in the hydraulic system. So far it's working good, cranks easy, starts good.
Tim

[RoamingGnome]

Yeah @MattA , my 226 with the Onan B43M, engine was strong. Sold it a while ago as a package with all kinds of attachments. It was a good looking tractor, with those wide wheels at the back, black frame, and beefy looking hood.

Wow! That was an awesome looking machine @Eugen

[Eugen]

Wow! That was an awesome looking machine @Eugen

I can tell you I regretted selling it for a long time. I just had no idea at the time what I got. It was also the model with the valve that doesn't let you go fast downhill.

[Harry]

I personally do not get involved in oil discussions. My belief is any oil is better than no oil. I keep maintenance records in a book of all maintenance and changes I do. Getting old and to many GT’s to remember what was done. Harry