Oil lite bushing won't hold
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Oil lite bushing won't hold
What to do when oil lite bushings won' hold in the bore .
Working on our lawn mower (what was suppose to happen this summer ), a Bolens 944 Frame Steer that was made in Sweden . Everything is metric , and some odd sizes for over to boot . Front wheel shafts and bearing baddly worn . Shaft size 20mm . That was the easy part as they are removable and simple to reproduce . The wheel bearing bushings are 20mm id / 26mm ish od 25mm long NLA through parts suppliers . Was able to source set of new bushing , BUT the bushing Od is only a couple thou press fit . Where as the rim bore is 10-15 sloppy . Normally I would weld a ring of weld to resize the bore , but in this case the one end does not allow this . SOOOO trying to cheat a little . I cleaned the bores with solvent and wiped any oil off the outside of the bushings . Whipped up some duck tape ( JB WELD) and smeared a coat on the outside of the bushings and the inside of the bores . Twisted the bushings into place and then clamp with large nut and bolt . Now the sit to cure over night . I have read where guys have done this with loctite 603 retaining compound , so though I would give Jim Bob a try .
To be continued
Working on our lawn mower (what was suppose to happen this summer ), a Bolens 944 Frame Steer that was made in Sweden . Everything is metric , and some odd sizes for over to boot . Front wheel shafts and bearing baddly worn . Shaft size 20mm . That was the easy part as they are removable and simple to reproduce . The wheel bearing bushings are 20mm id / 26mm ish od 25mm long NLA through parts suppliers . Was able to source set of new bushing , BUT the bushing Od is only a couple thou press fit . Where as the rim bore is 10-15 sloppy . Normally I would weld a ring of weld to resize the bore , but in this case the one end does not allow this . SOOOO trying to cheat a little . I cleaned the bores with solvent and wiped any oil off the outside of the bushings . Whipped up some duck tape ( JB WELD) and smeared a coat on the outside of the bushings and the inside of the bores . Twisted the bushings into place and then clamp with large nut and bolt . Now the sit to cure over night . I have read where guys have done this with loctite 603 retaining compound , so though I would give Jim Bob a try .
To be continued
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
JB Weld........?
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
Did you have Red Green helping or are you Red?DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:56 pm What to do when oil lite bushings won' hold in the bore .
Working on our lawn mower (what was suppose to happen this summer ), a Bolens 944 Frame Steer that was made in Sweden . Everything is metric , and some odd sizes for over to boot . Front wheel shafts and bearing baddly worn . Shaft size 20mm . That was the easy part as they are removable and simple to reproduce . The wheel bearing bushings are 20mm id / 26mm ish od 25mm long NLA through parts suppliers . Was able to source set of new bushing , BUT the bushing Od is only a couple thou press fit . Where as the rim bore is 10-15 sloppy . Normally I would weld a ring of weld to resize the bore , but in this case the one end does not allow this . SOOOO trying to cheat a little . I cleaned the bores with solvent and wiped any oil off the outside of the bushings . Whipped up some duck tape ( JB WELD) and smeared a coat on the outside of the bushings and the inside of the bores . Twisted the bushings into place and then clamp with large nut and bolt . Now the sit to cure over night . I have read where guys have done this with loctite 603 retaining compound , so though I would give John Bob a try .
To be continued
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
I'll have to remember that... "Jim Bob" WeldDavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:56 pm so though I would give John Bob a try .
To be continued
The stories that could be told about "Jim Bob" Weld in the Heavy Equipment shop... Well it all works until it doesn't
Working at Caterpillar we used a similar 2part product for building up severely worn metal - called Belzona 1111 - pretty wild stuff - I might have to sneak back into the old shop and "borrow" some to fill in all the pitting on my Case 530ck backhoes cylinder rods.
Belzona Video on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzHOzue33sc
Their other YouTube how to videos are interesting - seems they've got a glue or epoxy for just about any situation you can think of.
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
I learn from the master . I needed to be handy because not so hansom.Timj wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:37 pmDid you have Red Green helping or are you Red?DavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:56 pm What to do when oil lite bushings won' hold in the bore .
Working on our lawn mower (what was suppose to happen this summer ), a Bolens 944 Frame Steer that was made in Sweden . Everything is metric , and some odd sizes for over to boot . Front wheel shafts and bearing baddly worn . Shaft size 20mm . That was the easy part as they are removable and simple to reproduce . The wheel bearing bushings are 20mm id / 26mm ish od 25mm long NLA through parts suppliers . Was able to source set of new bushing , BUT the bushing Od is only a couple thou press fit . Where as the rim bore is 10-15 sloppy . Normally I would weld a ring of weld to resize the bore , but in this case the one end does not allow this . SOOOO trying to cheat a little . I cleaned the bores with solvent and wiped any oil off the outside of the bushings . Whipped up some duck tape ( JB WELD) and smeared a coat on the outside of the bushings and the inside of the bores . Twisted the bushings into place and then clamp with large nut and bolt . Now the sit to cure over night . I have read where guys have done this with loctite 603 retaining compound , so though I would give John Bob a try .
To be continued
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
RoamingGnome wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:00 pmI'll have to remember that... "Jim Bob" WeldDavidBarkey wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:56 pm so though I would give John Bob a try .
To be continued
The stories that could be told about "Jim Bob" Weld in the Heavy Equipment shop... Well it all works until it doesn't
Working at Caterpillar we used a similar 2part product for building up severely worn metal - called Belzona 1111 - pretty wild stuff - I might have to sneak back into the old shop and "borrow" some to fill in all the pitting on my Case 530ck backhoes cylinder rods.
Belzona Video on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzHOzue33sc
Their other YouTube how to videos are interesting - seems they've got a glue or epoxy for just about any situation you can think of.
Neat stuff Gerry. Bet you buy that at princess auto. ?
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
@RoamingGnome , that Belzona stuff, wow! Impressive!
Dave, I see you fixed that, I'm sure it'll hold fine. I was wondering why you haven't gone with a steel bushing pressed in the 26mm inside which you press the bronze bushing? Just curious, that's all.
Dave, I see you fixed that, I'm sure it'll hold fine. I was wondering why you haven't gone with a steel bushing pressed in the 26mm inside which you press the bronze bushing? Just curious, that's all.
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
The tube does not have enough wall thickness to bore out to be able to press in a repair sleeve . I don't have the tools to make a sleeve thin enough . Normally I would put a ring of weld or two on the outside of the tube to shrink the bore as the weld cools . But that is not an option on one side . I just hope this glue job works .
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
I must not understand it well, as I thought between 20mm and 26mm there would be enough thickness for bronze bushing and steel sleeve.
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Re: Oil lite bushing won't hold
Don't think so Noel... It's industrial stuff, smallest container is a 1-lb size and they just get bigger from there - I worked for a bunch of different heavy equipment manufacturers, CAT was the only one using Belzona, I've never seen it in a retail store.
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